Turkey Day Games

[ToGreySt]

In NH, we have five divisions that have semi and final games. we just don't have enough teams to do any more rounds. all ofthese games are also before thanksgiving, the last championship game was the 18th of this month. only a couple of schools have turkey games, nothing more than an exhibition game.

However, I do have great memories from high school in RI of the turkey game between Cranston West and Cranston East, one year West won the game to get into the playoffs. I was confused when I started officiating in NH and the turkey games don't have any effect on the standings

Joe

[Bob M.]

REPLY: Here in NJ, Thanksgiving games have been a long-time tradition that predates the introduction of a playoff system. They are regular season games that usually take place between the playoff semi-finals and championships. There are rivalries that go back decades. I'm not so sure that the coaches who are still alive in the playoffs are thrilled having to go out there tomorrow for fear of injury. I'm not so sure that I'm thrilled going out there being as the weather is supposed to be miserable.

[waltjp]

To expand on Bob M's post, Phillipsburg NJ is playing Easton PA on Thanksgiving Day. This year marks the 100th game of their rivalry. The game is being televised on ESPN2, 9:00 Eastern.

I thought I was going to be able to attend the game this year becasuse my regular crew wasn't assigned a game on Thursday. Tickets are hard to come by but I have a friend who came through for me. That all changed when I got a call on Monday night asking if I could cover for someone on another crew.

I'd never turn down the chance to work a game but I'm sure I'll be kicking myself for passing up an opportunity to see the Phillipsburg/Easton game.

Phillipsburg/Easton Story

[RoyGardner]

From eprov: "The state governing body (MIAA) allows a school to play in a maximum of 12 games during the year including the playoffs."

Actually the rules are more complex than a simple number of games. Since the season for most teams started "early" this year (on Sept. 8th), several league champion teams that win the "Superbowl" (the 2nd round of playoffs) will have played 13 games.

Most of our board will be "meeting" at 7:00 am for a "Board Breakfast", and then head out to our various game sites about 8:30 am for games that all kickoff at 10:00 AM. Usually good games and good crowds for what will be the last game of the year for most of us. Then we start looking forward to next year.

[ljudge]

Originally Posted by Bob M.

There are rivalries that go back decades.

We have on in S. Jersey that dates back to 1893 (Millville v. Vineland).

Originally Posted by Bob M.

I'm not so sure that the coaches who are still alive in the playoffs are thrilled having to go out there tomorrow for fear of injury.

We have one of those tomorrow. Seneca is in the Group 3 championship and Cherokee is in the Group 4 championship. It's Cherokee's homecoming and I read many of the starters are sitting. These are "sister" schools and this is a new rivalry. If both teams send their starters it will be one heckuva game.

Originally Posted by Bob M.

I'm not so sure that I'm thrilled going out there being as the weather is supposed to be miserable.

I just got home. It was 39 degrees and miserable as heck. The field was a quagmire. Just got that hot shower and gotta do it all again at 11:00 tomorrow except I get to go to Philly airport soaked to catch a plane. What fun!

[Bob M.]

REPLY: Thankfully, we were on Field-Turf. So there was no mud. However, the winds were blowing about 20-25 mph and the rain and sleet were falling sort of horizontally. It was cold and miserable. The game ended 28-0...and not a minute too soon! It's a day later and I'm still freezing.

[HLin NC]

P'burg game while my mother-in-law cooked the turkey on Thanksgiving morning. I was fortunate to work the first two rounds of NC playoffs this season on the field.

Here in NC the regular season ends the first Friday in November. The only teams playing after that are in the playoffs. Yesterday was the third round. We have 4 classifications, subdivided in the playoffs into two divisions based on school enrollment figures. Each division has 32 teams playing. The first round game are usually laughers.

Our state finals are the second week in December spread amongst the 4 ACC universities' fields.

The old timers tell me that back 50-60 years ago there were some big rivalry games played here on Thanksgiving.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

P'burg game while my mother-in-law cooked the turkey on Thanksgiving morning. I was fortunate to work the first two rounds of NC playoffs this season on the field.

I worked the first and third rounds as scheduled and filled in on a second round game. Great weather, at least for NC in November.

21-0 last night mid 2nd qtr. Home team scores 21 unanswered to tie at halftime. Ugly first half, 4 PFs and 2 USCs on the home team. We lceaned it up. Didn't have another flag until mid 4th qtr. Home won 35-28.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Bob M.

REPLY: Thankfully, we were on Field-Turf. So there was no mud. However, the winds were blowing about 20-25 mph and the rain and sleet were falling sort of horizontally. It was cold and miserable. The game ended 28-0...and not a minute too soon! It's a day later and I'm still freezing.

I saw bits and pieces of the game as we were preparing for our Thanksgiving Dinner. I made two observations...there seemed to be no effort to keep the coaches off the field. I saw several camera shots of the sidelines right before the snap and coaches were clearly standing 2-3 yards on the field. I also noticed the wing officials were starting 3-5 yards on the field rather than on the sideline like we are taught. Is this normal in your area? Sideline management continues to be an issue here as well.

The other observation was minor...I noticed the umpire tucked his shirt into his pants but not any compressions shorts underneath. You could see his stripes through the pants. If someone on our crew does that we like to raz them all night.

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

I saw bits and pieces of the game as we were preparing for our Thanksgiving Dinner. I made two observations...there seemed to be no effort to keep the coaches off the field. I saw several camera shots of the sidelines right before the snap and coaches were clearly standing 2-3 yards on the field. I also noticed the wing officials were starting 3-5 yards on the field rather than on the sideline like we are taught. Is this normal in your area? Sideline management continues to be an issue here as well.

The other observation was minor...I noticed the umpire tucked his shirt into his pants but not any compressions shorts underneath. You could see his stripes through the pants. If someone on our crew does that we like to raz them all night.

REPLY: I didn't see the game, so I don't know who worked the game. I know that they usually alternate which association's officials work it. One year it will be NJ's Central chapter, the next it will be Easton, Pennsylvania's guys. So I can't speak for the mechanics since I'm not in either of the chapters that usually work this game.

[bossman72]

On a bunch of games, i noticed referee's saying "illegal procedure" when announcing a foul.

Hasn't that been deleted from football vocabulary this year?