Whats the call??
A ball 2/9 from B42. A-11 drops back and throws a legal fwd pass to A-88. He catches the ball at the B12 As he continues to run, he drops the ball at the B7, ball rolls forward. A-88 jumps at the ball and lands in this order:
knees contact the sideline; A-88 recovers the ball at the B2 (inbounds). penalty?;ball; down/dist? Thanks:eek: |
No foul - A-88 never returns inbounds. Fumble is OOB at the spot where he touched it. 1/10 for A at the B2.
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Perhaps it would serve you well to cite the rules...just to know them that much better.
Where does it say that a "player" cannot touch a live ball? What's the definition of "player" (as opposed to sub, replaced player, non-player)? When can A legally bat a pass in flight (what kind of pass; what direction the batting)? Define OOB for a player, and what it means to touch any live ball. Answer those 4 questions and you will have educated yourself on fine points of the rules. In short, no, A cannot have an eligible player batting a live ball if he's OOB. That touching causes the ball to become dead. What's the point of that? |
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The argument came on the play where the receiver steps OOB, leaps into the air, and bats the ball to an in-bounds teammate. Consensus was that this should be an illegal participation foul. Other thoughts were to just rule this incomplete (IMO, more a call of convenience than anything else), or to say no foul on the play (which I argued for on the grounds that the term "in bounds" is nowhere defined, and I didn't think the receiver had returned in bounds). |
Roamin' Umpire, I think that was on the NF board. It was a very interesting discussion.
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Ah, that's it. I couldn't remember, and haven't had time to read other boards of late. (New babies will do that, after all.)
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Put a little Gin in that last night time bottle. Keep them sleeping all night. :rolleyes: Please note the sarcastic "smiles!"
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Sorry, I thought I'd answered that. No foul - the receiver never returned inbounds. It's simply an incomplete pass since the ball is OOB as soon as it touches him.
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I agree, no foul. Ball dead at the spot the OOB player touched the ball. |
1st and goal at the 2.
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Lets see. We have a catch A-88 at B-12 advanced to B-7 he fumbles the ball forward then tocuhed by A-88 who is out of bounds, ball is dead (4-2-3). The ball is returned to the spot of the fumble (7-2-4). A's ball at B-7 wind the clock. A 1-10 at B-7. (NCAA)
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