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Stripe Thu Nov 02, 2006 03:25pm

Double Foul with "Dirty Hands"
 
I'm drawing a blank here. 3rd & 8 on A's 35. B is guilty of holding before the pass. B intercepts at the 50 and A commits a 15 yard facemask when they tackle him at A's 40. Do you enforce both penalties or do they offset?

Warrenkicker Thu Nov 02, 2006 03:28pm

This is the classic offsetting situation where there is a change of possession. This would have been offsetting had there been no change of possession as well. On a change of possession A would foul prior to the COP and B decline it to keep the ball.

The only time you enforce both would be if one was USC or a dead-ball foul.

Kirby Thu Nov 02, 2006 06:20pm

In these scenarios where B gets the ball with dirty hands, all live ball fouls committed by A will cause an offsetting situation whether A's foul was committed before or after the change of possession.

JugglingReferee Thu Nov 02, 2006 08:40pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stripe
I'm drawing a blank here. 3rd & 8 on A's 35. B is guilty of holding before the pass. B intercepts at the 50 and A commits a 15 yard facemask when they tackle him at A's 40. Do you enforce both penalties or do they offset?

In cases where the first foul is not UR or RP, dual fouls are penalized from spot of first foul. A's best option is to keep the ball, 3D/13 @ A-30.

Stripe Sun Nov 05, 2006 09:38pm

JugglingReferee, I don't follow that. Spot of the first foul? I thought these would offset since they were both live ball fouls and not USC.

JugglingReferee Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stripe
JugglingReferee, I don't follow that. Spot of the first foul? I thought these would offset since they were both live ball fouls and not USC.

Look at the header of my reply - it is for the Canadian amateur game.

People don't often reply, but I am sure that it does provide an interesting view into another facet of football.


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