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Crazy punting situation NFHS
Fourth down and 10 for K on their own 15 yard line. Punt formation. The snap sails over the punter's head. It's rolling on the ground at the 1 yard line, where he kicks it forward like a soccer player. The ball is picked up by K9 at the 10 yard line and run 90 yards for a TD with 1:00 remaining in the second quarter.
What's your call? NFHS? NCAA? I'll tell you what we did later. |
Seems pretty straight forward, so I'm wondering what you guys did.
NCAA: team-B's ball 1/goal from the A-0.5 yard line. Penalty includes LOD. NFHS: team-A's ball 4/24.5 from the A-0.5 yard line. No TD in either case. |
I'd agree because K can't advance any kick. (NFHS)
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Canadian Ruling
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Team B can decline and give K the TD, or accept and take B 1D/10 A-1. Clock on the snap. |
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And yes, K can advance this ball - as an illegal kick, it is treated as a fumble. |
Good TD...
It's an illegal kick. Spot foul. 1/2 the distance. Replay 4th down. Can't kick the ball off the ground like in soccer.
If the punter had picked up the ball and punted it, and the punt stayed behind the neutral zone (blocked, tipped, whatever), K could have advanced and the TD would be good. |
NFHS - This is an illegal kick by K. It does not meet the defention of aeither a punt, place kick or drop kick as defined in rule 2-23. We have an illegal kick which is treated as a fumble so flag the illegal kick, let the play go and then offer R the following choices - decline the penalty and it's a TD for A/K. Accept the penalty and it's 15 yards back from the spot of the foul and replay the down.
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No, the initial response was correct - and not for the reason you say. |
The key on this play is to recognize that this is not a kick so none of the rules on restrictions apply. An illegal "kick" is really a FUMBLE so think of this play as a fumble by A.
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