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BoBo Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:52pm

Defense Holding- Spot of enforcement
 
2nd and 10 at B's 40.

Quarterback A10 scrambling; and B44 holds A88 at B's 30 while running a pass route.

(a) A10 sacked at B's 45. spot of enforcement??

(b) A10 throws an imcomplete pass. spot of enforcement??

JRutledge Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:05am

In NF rules, the spot on both is going to be the previous spot (or LOS).

Peace

BoBo Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:21am

what if the holding is on a back behind the line of scrimmage. where is the spot of enforcement??

if the qb is facemasked then it is the end of the run. qb sacked fro 10 yard loss and facemasked during the tackle then it is 5 or 15 from the end of the run and repeat the down.

is it because the foul is past the line of scrimmag/previous spot that we use it as the basic spot

cougar729 Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:46am

A) It is a running play, and since the penalty on the defense is enforced from the basic spot--which is the end of the run.

B) Loose ball play, enfore from the previous spot.

andy1033 Tue Oct 17, 2006 07:23am

A. End of run (45).

B. previous spot.

mikesears Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBo
2nd and 10 at B's 40.

Quarterback A10 scrambling; and B44 holds A88 at B's 30 while running a pass route.

Enforcement of defensive fouls is always from the basic spot (exception is roughing the passer).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo
(a) A10 sacked at B's 45. spot of enforcement??

This is not a loose ball play so it MUST be a running play. Basic spot for running plays is the end of the run. Enforce this foul from the B-45, 2nd and 5 at the B-35. Quarterback could have helped himself out by fumbling the ball :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo
(b) A10 throws an imcomplete pass. spot of enforcement??

This is a loose ball play so basic spot is the previous spot. 1st and 10 at B's30.

JugglingReferee Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:44pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBo
2nd and 10 at B's 40.

Quarterback A10 scrambling; and B44 holds A88 at B's 30 while running a pass route.

(a) A10 sacked at B's 45. spot of enforcement??

(b) A10 throws an imcomplete pass. spot of enforcement??

In both cases, apply the 10 yards from the PLS, and unless yards were gained, repeat the down.


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