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Old Mon Oct 16, 2006, 11:52pm
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Defense Holding- Spot of enforcement

2nd and 10 at B's 40.

Quarterback A10 scrambling; and B44 holds A88 at B's 30 while running a pass route.

(a) A10 sacked at B's 45. spot of enforcement??

(b) A10 throws an imcomplete pass. spot of enforcement??
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2006, 12:05am
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In NF rules, the spot on both is going to be the previous spot (or LOS).

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Old Tue Oct 17, 2006, 12:21am
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what if the holding is on a back behind the line of scrimmage. where is the spot of enforcement??

if the qb is facemasked then it is the end of the run. qb sacked fro 10 yard loss and facemasked during the tackle then it is 5 or 15 from the end of the run and repeat the down.

is it because the foul is past the line of scrimmag/previous spot that we use it as the basic spot
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2006, 12:46am
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A) It is a running play, and since the penalty on the defense is enforced from the basic spot--which is the end of the run.

B) Loose ball play, enfore from the previous spot.
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2006, 07:23am
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A. End of run (45).

B. previous spot.
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2006, 12:15pm
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2nd and 10 at B's 40.

Quarterback A10 scrambling; and B44 holds A88 at B's 30 while running a pass route.
Enforcement of defensive fouls is always from the basic spot (exception is roughing the passer).

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(a) A10 sacked at B's 45. spot of enforcement??
This is not a loose ball play so it MUST be a running play. Basic spot for running plays is the end of the run. Enforce this foul from the B-45, 2nd and 5 at the B-35. Quarterback could have helped himself out by fumbling the ball

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(b) A10 throws an imcomplete pass. spot of enforcement??
This is a loose ball play so basic spot is the previous spot. 1st and 10 at B's30.
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2nd and 10 at B's 40.

Quarterback A10 scrambling; and B44 holds A88 at B's 30 while running a pass route.

(a) A10 sacked at B's 45. spot of enforcement??

(b) A10 throws an imcomplete pass. spot of enforcement??
In both cases, apply the 10 yards from the PLS, and unless yards were gained, repeat the down.
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