Pac-10 officials vs. OK suspended one game

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I completely agree with this statement.

Peace

I'll second the second!

[mcrowder]

What does the article mean when it says the recovery by OU was not reviewable? Specifically, why not? Seems rather clear on replay to me.

And No, I'm not a fanboy - I'm a Longhorn. I wanted them to lose, but not this way.

I do think it sucks that the on-field crew is being suspended for a week. I don't believe they deserved it (we all make mistakes - no game is officiated perfectly), and I don't believe it serves any true purpose in motivating them not to make mistakes in the future (which, supposedly, would the intent of punishment such as this) - I'm sure they are already motivated to not make mistakes.

However, I think it's a crime that the replay official has not been suspended for at least the season. This is CLEARLY an egregious error and it was his sole responsibility to fix it. He had the same angles the rest of us did, and it was a rather obvious mistake. This man should not work again. I don't want to say the mistake was intentional or biased, but I can't help but wonder if the policy of using local ex-officials as replay officials, instead of ponying up the bucks to have a replay official as part of a crew, is partly to blame here.

[JasonTX]

I haven't seen any replays of a camera that was position on the 45 yard line. All the camera views I seen were from an angle. If you've been officiating long enough, you know that making calls depends on the perfect view. The ball APPEARED to be less than 10 yards when it was touched, but we can't use what it APPEARED to be because the angle the camera was at is what gave it that appearance. We must have absolute facts. As far as the recovery of the ball, someone mentioned there was a replay that showed Oregon #15 falling on the ball while he was down. The recovery of the ball by OU #23 was after the ball became dead. In my opinion the replay official should have said there wasn't sufficient effidence to overturn the call. But because they said the ball had touched OU first is what set these wheels turning.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

I haven't seen any replays of a camera that was position on the 45 yard line. All the camera views I seen were from an angle. If you've been officiating long enough, you know that making calls depends on the perfect view. The ball APPEARED to be less than 10 yards when it was touched, but we can't use what it APPEARED to be because the angle the camera was at is what gave it that appearance. We must have absolute facts. As far as the recovery of the ball, someone mentioned there was a replay that showed Oregon #15 falling on the ball while he was down. The recovery of the ball by OU #23 was after the ball became dead. In my opinion the replay official should have said there wasn't sufficient effidence to overturn the call. But because they said the ball had touched OU first is what set these wheels turning.

You're right that there is no great angle on the touch ... except for the overhead angle where you can watch the player make the touch, and see the 45 yardline clear as day to his right.

Regarding the recovery, there were ample reviews (both on TV at the time of this happening, and available all over the place in extreme retrospect) that showed the ball never in possession until after the linesman was waving his arms. At WORST, this should have been IW. I think it's readily apparent that the only Oregon player whose hands touched the ball was the guy who touched it 4-5 yards after it was kicked. It was never even remotely near an Oregon player's possession. Never.

[JasonTX]

I think the whole fiasco could have been prevented if they would have just flagged the 2 players on the top of the screen for being offside.

[rickref872]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

I think the whole fiasco could have been prevented if they would have just flagged the 2 players on the top of the screen for being offside.

I agree! Or worse yet is the ball not actually loose on the ground when they are blwoing the whislte or using teh stop clock signal? How about them worms?