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The Roamin' Umpire Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:28pm

Byrnes/Glades game?
 
I caught a bit of the Byrnes (SC) vs. Glades (FL) high school game on ESPN Saturday. (Clearly the first game of the season - there were lots of flags.) Any of our usual suspects here happen to be on that one?

rickref872 Mon Aug 28, 2006 08:18am

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Originally Posted by The Roamin' Umpire
I caught a bit of the Byrnes (SC) vs. Glades (FL) high school game on ESPN Saturday. (Clearly the first game of the season - there were lots of flags.) Any of our usual suspects here happen to be on that one?

I watched and noticed what I think was a 3rd and 9. The crew has an offensive holding and a late hit on the WR attempting to catch a ball(incomplete pass) out of bounds. The mark off the 10 and then the 15 against B but left it 3rd and 4. Is this right in Fed ball? I would think should have been A 1st down.

The Roamin' Umpire Mon Aug 28, 2006 08:34am

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Originally Posted by rickref872
I watched and noticed what I think was a 3rd and 9. The crew has an offensive holding and a late hit on the WR attempting to catch a ball(incomplete pass) out of bounds. The mark off the 10 and then the 15 against B but left it 3rd and 4. Is this right in Fed ball? I would think should have been A 1st down.

That is the correct ruling. Personal fouls do not grant automatic first downs in NFHS unless they are roughing (kicker, holder, snapper, passer). Since the late hit is a dead-ball foul, it doesn't create a double (offsetting) foul. This is another example where it is especially important to actually step off both fouls, since you don't end up where you started.

rickref872 Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:05am

OK then thanks for that. I am a long time NCAA Texas guy so this was funny for me to see.


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