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STEVED21 Tue Mar 14, 2006 07:26pm

Has anyone heard of any mechanics changes for 2006?

irefky Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:32pm

I think there's one for kicking FG and PA <15 for fed.

Based on the kickers foot and position of WH, the LJ or HL would go back with the BJ. Did I read that correctly or was it a bad dream?

This to have coverage for a kicking break down and WH would cover the area of the official who went back.

Dale Smith Wed Mar 15, 2006 01:21pm

Quote:

Originally posted by irefky
I think there's one for kicking FG and PA <15 for fed.

Based on the kickers foot and position of WH, the LJ or HL would go back with the BJ. Did I read that correctly or was it a bad dream?

This to have coverage for a kicking break down and WH would cover the area of the official who went back.

The article was in the April Referee Magazine. I received it yesterday and have not had a chance to thoroughly read it. We’ve used the mechanic you are talking about on PATs and FGs in Ohio for the last 4 or 5 years and have not had too much of a problem. The R just needs to remember that he is responsible for the sideline towards his back.

grantsrc Wed Mar 15, 2006 04:02pm

So either wing would go back? Makes sense.

I really wish the Fed would look at their passing keys for the BJ and wing officials. The idea of relying on which receiver is on the line or off the line makes it difficult. Why not just use the widest receiver to the wing, then the back judge take the next receiver. If it is even strength, the back judge swivels on the two inside receivers (I don't like that).

Anyway, just my thoughts.

Bob M. Wed Mar 15, 2006 04:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by grantsrc
So either wing would go back? Makes sense.

I really wish the Fed would look at their passing keys for the BJ and wing officials. The idea of relying on which receiver is on the line or off the line makes it difficult. Why not just use the widest receiver to the wing, then the back judge take the next receiver. If it is even strength, the back judge swivels on the two inside receivers (I don't like that).

Anyway, just my thoughts.

REPLY: I agree. The CCA system only considers where the eligible receivers are relative to the sidelines. They don't care at all whether they're on or off the line of scrimmage.

RefNVa Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:33pm

Box man using a bean bag! Gimmee a break!

wisref2 Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:37am

I've had the downbox guy using a beanbag for years - only inside the 10 when the chains aren't set (which I believe is the new mechanic). It's come into play maybe two or three times in 20 years. It's not going to change the way the game of football forever, but it's another one of those little things that might save you some headaches.

STEVED21 Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:57am

Why would this be neccesary only inside the 10? Th ebox guy could move on every play. At least inside the ten there should be no one behind him and could move straight back.

grantsrc Sat Mar 18, 2006 06:06pm

The box guys in the arena league use bean bags just in case the box gets taken out. They don't stick around and hold them for obvious reasons.

I just got the magazine today and noticed they changed the passing keys! Yes!! BJ now takes widest guy on strong side. Now more, is he on the line or off? stuff. That is a move in the right direction.


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