2nd and 10 from A's 35 yardline.

PLAY 1

QB A10 drops back to pass and scrambles, A56 holds B44 at A's 30 yard line. A10 is tackled/sacked at the A's 25 yardline.

Where is the holding penalty marked off from?


PLAY 2

Same as the above but A10 before being sacked throws an incomplete pass downfield.

Where is the holding penalty marked off from?

PLAY 3
QB A10 drops back to pass and scrambles, A56 holds B44 at A's 30 yard line. A10 is tackled/sacked at the A's 33 yardline.

Where is the holding penalty marked off from?

Just staying sharp as we enter the playoff season

1=25
2=30
3=30

Forksref, could you explain why you would enforce #1 from the 25? Please reference the rules book. I'm looking at 10-4-1. Thanks.

1 is enforced from 25 as it was running play so enforced from end of run.

The easy way to think of this is:

If you step off from the 30, you're giving the offense five yards they haven't earned.

The rulebook way is:

The end of the run is the basic spot. It's not an all-but-one exception, so mark the penalty from the basic spot.

I thought holding was a spot foul? Please reference the rule book to support the mark off from the 25. Thanks.

The all but one principle says that the only foul enforced from the spot are fouls by the offense behind the basic spot. For a running play the basic spot is the end of the run.
All other penalties are marked off from the basic spot. 10-6. Holding is a spot foul if it occurs behind the end of the run. In essence the all but one says that if the holding occurred at the 25 and the end of the run was the 30 then the 5 yards difference was gained as a result of the hold.

[Edited by schwinn on Oct 31st, 2005 at 08:05 PM]

Running play, enforce from the end of the run (basic spot) or the spot of the foul if it is a foul by A behind the basic spot (all but one principle). In this case the foul (at the 30)was not behind the basic spot (25 - end of the run) so we enforce from the end of the run (25).

10-4-4 (basic spot is the end of the run)

10-4-6 (all but one)

All but one means, in effect, take the worst spot as it affects A.

NCAA: all enforced from the previous spot.

Check the principles chart in the back of the rule book. All live ball fouls against the defense are enforced from the end of the run. Since this was a running play the foul is enforced from the end of the run.

Be careful with using the phrase, "Go with what hurts them the most." This isn't always true. I had an example somewhere but it's too early to remember. Check out this thread from a while back:
http://www.officialforum.com/thread/20851

I had it wrong until lots of people here corrected me. Hope this helps.