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schoony Wed Oct 19, 2005 01:55pm

Question: What is the rule NFHS rule regarding a blocked field goal attempt. Watched an attempt last week where the kick was blocked, the kicker picked up the ball and ran for a touchdown. Everyone on the defense just stood their like they expected the ball to be blown dead.

Nobody from the defensive team touched the ball (with the exception of the kid that blocked the kick).

MdSooner Wed Oct 19, 2005 01:59pm

perfectly legal

Theisey Wed Oct 19, 2005 02:18pm

Any scrimmage kick can be recovered (or caught) behind the NZ and advanced by the kicking team in both NF and NCAA rules.

There is a slight difference between the codes that would limit that, but for your NFHS case play, that would not be a factor.

Warrenkicker Wed Oct 19, 2005 02:22pm

6-2-3 Any kicker may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

cougar729 Thu Oct 20, 2005 02:50am

I'm guessing there was a new lesson in practice the week after that play.

rockyroad Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:04am

So if the kick never makes it beyond the NZ, can the defense pick up the blocked field goal attempt and run it for a TD?

Theisey Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:10am

The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).

rockyroad Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:52am

Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).
Anytime? On a blocked PAT???

BulldogMcC Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:02am

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
So if the kick never makes it beyond the NZ, can the defense pick up the blocked field goal attempt and run it for a TD?
Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).
Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).
Anytime? On a blocked PAT???

PAT wasn't part of your question, you asked about a field goal and he answered your question perfectly.

To answer your ammended question, no the ball is dead on a PAT attempt after it has been kicked once it has passed through the uprights or is obviously unsucessful. A PAT attempt is over and the ball dead when the ball is normally dead or when B secures possession of the ball.

[Edited by BulldogMcC on Oct 20th, 2005 at 12:04 PM]

rockyroad Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:09am

Quote:

Originally posted by BulldogMcC

PAT wasn't part of your question, you asked about a field goal and he answered your question perfectly.

To answer your ammended question, no the ball is dead on a PAT attempt after it has been kicked once it has passed through the uprights or is obviously unsucessful. A PAT attempt is over and the ball dead when the ball is normally dead or when B secures possession of the ball.

[Edited by BulldogMcC on Oct 20th, 2005 at 12:04 PM]

Yes he did answer my question perfectly...and you answered the next one pefectly...thanks to both of you.

Theisey Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:18am

I probably should have explicitly stated that a scrimmage kick TRY attempt was exempted, but since we have been talking about scrimmage kick field goal attempts, I didn't think about it.

That being said, I think last year one or more states was experimenting with a possible rule change to allow team-B to score on a failed PAT attempt. Not sure if anyone is experimenting with that again this year, but they would be able to run back a blocked PAT.

TriggerMN Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:25pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).
Not true. An unsucessful field goal (because we are talking about that) becomes a touchback when it breaks the plane of the goal line.

Theisey Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:44pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TriggerMN
Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).
Not true. An unsucessful field goal (because we are talking about that) becomes a touchback when it breaks the plane of the goal line.

??????
So what is not true about my statement?

Kirby Thu Oct 20, 2005 01:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
Quote:

Originally posted by TriggerMN
Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
The defense can pick up a kick and run with it anytime (except out of the EZ under NF rules).
Not true. An unsucessful field goal (because we are talking about that) becomes a touchback when it breaks the plane of the goal line.

??????
So what is not true about my statement?

Nothing is incorrect about your statement.

Trigger--he is saying that the "defense" can not bring the kick out of the endzone because it is already dead (NF).

James Neil Thu Oct 20, 2005 01:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
I probably should have explicitly stated that a scrimmage kick TRY attempt was exempted, but since we have been talking about scrimmage kick field goal attempts, I didn't think about it.

That being said, I think last year one or more states was experimenting with a possible rule change to allow team-B to score on a failed PAT attempt. Not sure if anyone is experimenting with that again this year, but they would be able to run back a blocked PAT.

Oregon is one of the states experimenting with keeping the ball live after a change of possession on a try attempt. This is our second year using this experiment.


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