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WyMike Mon Sep 26, 2005 09:49am

Last nights game between SD and NY I believe, in the 2nd half the TV camera had a shot right down the LOS. I plainly saw the center lean over the ball, grasp it with one hand and spin it end-for-end just prior to the snap. Is that allowed or just overlooked as a ball adjustment?

WM

Doc-WI Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:59am

NFL: That is legal for the snapper to do.

JDLJ Mon Sep 26, 2005 04:17pm

The NFL is in the entertainment business. Items like the center spinning or sliding the ball forward, the ends covering an inside receiver, heads in the neutral zone, coaches cussing out officials, etc. are routinely overlooked.

mcrowder Mon Sep 26, 2005 04:18pm

I disagree wholeheartedly on "the ends covering an inside receiver".

JDLJ Mon Sep 26, 2005 04:26pm

I asked an NFL wing man about it once and he said they are instructed that, if there is even a hint of separation between them, they don't call it. You can go years without seeing that called in the NFL.

Green Mon Sep 26, 2005 04:55pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JDLJ
The NFL is in the entertainment business. Items like the center spinning or sliding the ball forward, the ends covering an inside receiver, heads in the neutral zone, coaches cussing out officials, etc. are routinely overlooked.
JDLJ

NFL official Bill Leavy (R127) was from our high school group before he moved through the colleges ranks into the NFL. A couple of weeks ago he spoke to our group. He was asked about conduct between coaches and officials. Cussing out an official is unacceptable and is subject to a penalty.

Cuss words maybe used by coaches and players but not directed at an official.

What is the source of your information?

Green

JDLJ Tue Sep 27, 2005 08:38am

Green,

When is the last time you saw or even heard of an UC called on a coach in the NFL?

mj Tue Sep 27, 2005 08:46am

Quote:

Originally posted by JDLJ
Green,

When is the last time you saw or even heard of an UC called on a coach in the NFL?


Tampa @ Green Bay
They got Gruden on one...

JDLJ Tue Sep 27, 2005 08:54am

UC's are very rare despite the coaches being amazingly profane. I've worked on the NFL sidelines for years and I've only seen one called. I'm not knocking the NFL refs; they do a great job but that is just not a call they are encouraged to make so they don't call it. They are instructed to let a lot of stuff go that would be called at the high school and college level in order to let the game flow. That's neither good nor bad - it's just the way it is in the NFL.


w_sohl Tue Sep 27, 2005 09:22am

What is the deal about ends covering inside receivers?

JDLJ Tue Sep 27, 2005 09:31am

I've often seen the widest receiver, who I assume should have been in the back field, up on the line and covering the inside receiver. They both go down on passes and I've heard opposing coaches complain about it. I asked a HL about it once and he said they will not call it if they see the even a little bit of separation between the two. In effect, if they are both on the line but the inside guy is leaning forward more the the wide guy, the wide guy is considered off the line. I don't know the exact ruling or wording they use, I'm just passing on what I was told.


w_sohl Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:24pm

Ohhhh, duh! I was thinking DE covering the inside receiver. I am such a dumba**...


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