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kentref Sat Sep 24, 2005 09:06pm

Youth game this afternoon. A 4th down scrimmage kick (punt) travels about 10 yards beyond the neutral zone, hits the ground and rebounds back about 5 yards behind the neutral zone untouched. While the ball is still rolling, R3 muffs the ball in an attempt to gain possession. K10 recovers with the ball 6 yards behind the neutral zone.

The rule book is clear that if R touches the scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone, a new series is awarded to the team last in possession.

In this situation, R did not touch the ball beyond the neutral zone, but rather behind the neutral zone. We awarded a new series to K at the spot of recovery. Was that correct?

R's coach was not happy that R3 felt the need to try to pick up the ball!

BktBallRef Sat Sep 24, 2005 09:14pm

No, you were not correct. You said it yourself, R did not touch the ball beyond the NZ.

If R had blocked the punt, K recovered but not made the line to gain, would you have given K a 1st down?

I hope not.

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 25, 2005 07:01am

Canadian Ruling
 
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Originally posted by kentref
Youth game this afternoon. A 4th down scrimmage kick (punt) travels about 10 yards beyond the neutral zone, hits the ground and rebounds back about 5 yards behind the neutral zone untouched. While the ball is still rolling, R3 muffs the ball in an attempt to gain possession. K10 recovers with the ball 6 yards behind the neutral zone.
Legal. K's ball.

MJT Sun Sep 25, 2005 02:18pm

Bskballref is correct for NF. K would have to get the ball to the LTG in this case to be awarded a new series.

kentref Sun Sep 25, 2005 04:48pm

Is there an additional rule reference on this, besides 5-1-3f and 5-1-4?

MJT Sun Sep 25, 2005 05:22pm

Quote:

Originally posted by kentref
Is there an additional rule reference on this, besides 5-1-3f and 5-1-4?

How about 6-2-3.


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