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PAUMP Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:39pm

Do you allow the coaches to enter the field for a conference during this stoppage of play?

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:16pm

Nope. Water break only.

jrfath Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:27pm

I see no problem in letting the players go to the sideline to get the quick water break, and coaches can instruct them from there. No advantage gained since both teams can go to the sideline.

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:31pm

If a coach wants an opportunity to instruct his players, he needs to request and be granted a timeout. If the official calls a timeout for heat/waterbreak, there is nothing to justify allowing the coach out to talk to his kids. If he can yell it from the sidelines, then that's all he's allowed to do.

kdf5 Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:38pm

3-5-7-h...An official's time out occurs...For unusual heat...

3-5-8 An authorized conference may be held during...an official's time out (7h, 7l, and 7m only).

So yes coaches can hold either kind of conference during a heat time out.

Snake~eyes Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:40pm

I tend to disagree, the team may either go to the sideline or one coach and 3 attendants can come on the field.

Rule 3-5-8
An authorized conference may be held during a charged time-out or an official's timeout (7h, 7l and 7m only). Only one type of conference may be used by a team during any one time-out.

Rule 3-5-7h For unusualy heat or humidity

Snake~eyes Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by kdf5
3-5-7-h...An official's time out occurs...For unusual heat...

3-5-8 An authorized conference may be held during...an official's time out (7h, 7l, and 7m only).

So yes coaches can hold either kind of conference during a heat time out.

Dang you beat me to it by a few seconds.

kdf5 Thu Aug 25, 2005 01:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Quote:

Originally posted by kdf5
3-5-7-h...An official's time out occurs...For unusual heat...

3-5-8 An authorized conference may be held during...an official's time out (7h, 7l, and 7m only).

So yes coaches can hold either kind of conference during a heat time out.

Dang you beat me to it by a few seconds.

However, great minds think alike.

w_sohl Thu Aug 25, 2005 02:33pm

We discussed this last night in our meeting. Coaches can go out during water breaks.

Warrenkicker Thu Aug 25, 2005 02:45pm

Maybe Whistle & Stripes is from Ohio and heard Refman's ruling. ;)

http://www.nfhs.org/scriptcontent/va...c;f=9;t=000906

It is legal for a coach to go out for a heat/humidity timeout.

mikesears Thu Aug 25, 2005 03:51pm

Legal. This is one of the three officials timeouts in which a coach may hold an authorized conference.

The three are:

1. Heat and Humidity Timeout.

2. TV/Radio Timeout

3. The one minute intermission between the 1st and 2nd period and the 3rd and 4th period and following a try, successful field goal or safety, and prior to the succeeding free kick.

(Pulls out soap box)
I don't see why guys so adamently won't allow it. First,the rule is clear that it is allowed. Second, the coach is probably the best person to determine if a player is acting out of sorts. Heat can kill. Allow the coach out there to determine if the players are okay.
{Puts Soap Box Back)








grantsrc Thu Aug 25, 2005 05:32pm

For those of us on NFHS, we're having Deja Vu all over again!

Yes, coaches can come onto the field during this break. Rule 3-5 whatever.

9- whatever (long day, don't want to get rule books) about the three attendants only is there to prohibit a coach from acting as an assistant during these timeouts.

However, there is disagreement from state to state on whether the coach is allowed on the field. NFHS book says yes, some states say no. Might have to seek the answer from the higher-ups.

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Aug 25, 2005 06:03pm

I was shootin from the hip earlier. I was wrong. I'll let em on the field.

JugglingReferee Fri Aug 26, 2005 07:13pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PAUMP
Do you allow the coaches to enter the field for a conference during this stoppage of play?
No, but water boys are allowed. Players may visit the coach, though.

wisref2 Sat Aug 27, 2005 01:20pm

We found an easy way around the questions and gripes from coaches about what they can and can't do during an official's timeout for heat. Just tell the teams to go to their sideline, take off their helmets and get water. The players always do because the guys in stripes told them to go there.


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