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ljudge Tue May 24, 2005 11:18am

I was reading a story on CNN's site today about a new laser and it got me thinking about something that happened to me in my first year that in retrospect was the most spooky thing that ever happened to me as an official.

While working a midget game as a Linesman in 1999 I came to the middle of the field to report an infraction to the referee. He had this puzzled look on his face and said "Joe, what's that on your shirt???" I look down and realized a red laser was pointed directly at my chest from a fan some distance away.

I kept working the game not thinking anything of it. In hindsight I probably should have ran off the field. Think about it! You have no idea if it's some wise @ss kid with a pencil laser or some nut case with a gun.

In these days where we're hearing so much about assaults on sports officials I probably would run off the field. I'm interested in hearing how some of you would handle this.

Opie Tue May 24, 2005 11:31am

I'd hide behind my umpire. :)

Immediately leave the field and notify game management. Let them handle it from there.

kdf5 Tue May 24, 2005 12:41pm

I had the same thing happen several years ago only it was pointed farther south :o

Game administration saw the kid and confiscated the laser. We had a few laughs over it afterwards but it was embarrasing at the time.

JasonTX Tue May 24, 2005 02:44pm

This has happened here in my hometown on several occasions. They have taken this real serious around here The past few years I haven't heard of any incidents in my home town. Obviously if you fear for your life get the you know what out of there. But on the other hand if you can follow the laser back to it's holder you can inform the coach or administrator so they can in most cases identify the individual. There was one occasion where there was a laser but they couldn't find the culprit so they positioned some "under cover" school administators in the crowd opposite from where the laser was coming from and with the aid of walky talkies they communicated where it was coming from. They also give a brief announcement prior to the game about the lasers as well.

chris s Tue May 24, 2005 04:59pm

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Originally posted by Opie
I'd hide behind my umpire. :)

Immediately leave the field and notify game management. Let them handle it from there.

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TXMike Tue May 24, 2005 07:42pm

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Originally posted by ljudge

I kept working the game not thinking anything of it. In hindsight I probably should have ran off the field. Think about it! You have no idea if it's some wise @ss kid with a pencil laser or some nut case with a gun.

#1 this (gun with laser sights) could not happen at a school stadium as it is against the law to have a gun on school grounds. ;-) (My feeble atempt to smack the anti-gun crowd)

It happened to me and I did not, nor would I if it happened again, take the dramatic step of running off the field. I could tell where it was coming from and had administrators remove the kid from stadium.

Ed Hickland Tue May 24, 2005 10:22pm

In these days of Columbine, and other such disturbances, any threat has to be taken seriously. Contact game administration and order them to remove the potential threat.

Many years ago doing a high school basketball game in Detroit, the security officier walked over to me at the scorer's table during a timeout and said, "Ref, we're going to have to stop this game, we think someone has a gun in the stands."

No argument here. Game over.

cowbyfan1 Fri May 27, 2005 04:03am

Be careful too as those laser will blind you (I know, we already are). So if you get looking for the culprit you might want to consider that.
I also agree, report it to game management. Chances of it being a gun are real slim so I would not run off the field. Besides I'm far from being able to out run a bullet.

TXMike Fri May 27, 2005 10:08am

These "hobby" lasers are not sufficient to blind you. You need an industrial-type laser for that.

Snake~eyes Fri May 27, 2005 12:16pm

I'm not running off the field, just tell game management to take care of it.

kdf5 Fri May 27, 2005 12:46pm

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Originally posted by cowbyfan1
...Besides I'm far from being able to out run a bullet.
My wife's employer gave pamphlets to their women employees dealing with women's safety a few days ago. In it, they said that if a mugger has a gun you should run as there is only a 4/100 chance of being struck. I wonder how they came up with that number but in all seriousness that was the recommendation.

chris s Fri May 27, 2005 02:31pm

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Originally posted by kdf5
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Originally posted by cowbyfan1
...Besides I'm far from being able to out run a bullet.
My wife's employer gave pamphlets to their women employees dealing with women's safety a few days ago. In it, they said that if a mugger has a gun you should run as there is only a 4/100 chance of being struck. I wonder how they came up with that number but in all seriousness that was the recommendation.

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Did you see that chase seen down in So. Cal. where the cops got the guy pulled over, then fired over 90 rounds at him, they managed to hit one of thier own and did not kill suspect......btw, guy was unarmed and LA Sheriffs office was immediately approaching homeowners in the vicinity with checks to offer, they managed to hit homes!!!!

kdf5 Fri May 27, 2005 02:53pm

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Originally posted by chris s
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Originally posted by kdf5
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Originally posted by cowbyfan1
...Besides I'm far from being able to out run a bullet.
My wife's employer gave pamphlets to their women employees dealing with women's safety a few days ago. In it, they said that if a mugger has a gun you should run as there is only a 4/100 chance of being struck. I wonder how they came up with that number but in all seriousness that was the recommendation.

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Did you see that chase seen down in So. Cal. where the cops got the guy pulled over, then fired over 90 rounds at him, they managed to hit one of thier own and did not kill suspect......btw, guy was unarmed and LA Sheriffs office was immediately approaching homeowners in the vicinity with checks to offer, they managed to hit homes!!!!

Seems to me that the LA cops do a much better job with their batons.

cowbyfan1 Sat May 28, 2005 05:25am

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Originally posted by TXMike
These "hobby" lasers are not sufficient to blind you. You need an industrial-type laser for that.
tell that to the airline pilot who was blinded in one eye by one.

SWFLguy Sat May 28, 2005 03:14pm

I laughed at the
"hide behind my umpire" !!
I'm 6'3" 270--- and
I always protected my White
Hat and the others by leading the way
through any crowds after games--
keeping an eye out for any crazed
parent/fan who would do us bodily
harm !!
Treat any threat as REAL !!
Do not let it slide.


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