Simultaneous Catch?

[w_sohl]

Complete, Incomplete or Interception?

1) A1 and A2 simultaneously catch a forward pass:

(a) A1 & A2 return to the ground simultaneously A1 in bounds and A2 out of bounds

(b) A1 returns to the ground first inbounds, A2 second out of bounds

(c) A1 returns to the ground second inbounds, A2 first out of bounds

2) A1 and B1 simultaneously catch a forward pass:

(a) A1 & B1 return to the ground simultaneously A1 in bounds and B1 out of bounds

(b) A1 returns to the ground first inbounds, B1 second out of bounds

(c) A1 returns to the ground second inbounds, B1 first out of bounds

(d) B1 returns to the ground first inbounds, A2 second out of bounds

(e) B1 returns to the ground second inbounds, A2 first out of bounds

(f) A1 & B1 return to the ground simultaneously A1 out of bounds and B1 inbounds


I know some of these may be obvious, the reason I ask is, if I remember correctly the benefit during a simultaneous catch by the offense and defense is given to the offense (correct?).

7.5.4 gives the answer to some of these regarding O/D simultaneous catches.

[Edited by w_sohl on Aug 19th, 2005 at 06:00 PM]

[The Roamin' Umpire]

Originally posted by w_sohl
Complete, Incomplete or Interception?

1) A1 and A2 simultaneously catch a forward pass:
(a) A1 & A2 return to the ground simultaneously A1 in bounds and A2 out of bounds
(b) A1 returns to the ground first inbounds, A2 second out of bounds
(c) A1 returns to the ground second inbounds, A2 first out of bounds

*blink* Two teammates, eh? Strange.
(a) & (c) are incomplete. (b) is a catch by A1, live ball.
Simultaneous catch rules do not apply here - NF 2-4-3 requires opposing players.

2) A1 and B1 simultaneously catch a forward pass:
(a) A1 & B1 return to the ground simultaneously A1 in bounds and B1 out of bounds
(b) A1 returns to the ground first inbounds, B1 second out of bounds
(c) A1 returns to the ground second inbounds, B1 first out of bounds
(d) B1 returns to the ground first inbounds, A2 second out of bounds
(e) B1 returns to the ground second inbounds, A2 first out of bounds
(f) A1 & B1 return to the ground simultaneously A1 out of bounds and B1 inbounds

All incomplete. See NF casebook 7.4.3e and comment. Notably, 7.4.3e covers having one player inbounds and one OOB. The comment says that the players do not have to return to the ground exactly simultaneously.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by w_sohl
Complete, Incomplete or Interception?

1) A1 and A2 simultaneously catch a forward pass:

(a) A1 & A2 return to the ground simultaneously A1 in bounds and A2 out of bounds

(b) A1 returns to the ground first inbounds, A2 second out of bounds

(c) A1 returns to the ground second inbounds, A2 first out of bounds.

These aren't simuiltaneous catches, partner. Simultaneous applies to a ball caught by two opposing players. And yes, you are correct that the offense would retain possession.

[w_sohl]

Thanks guys, I had to read it a couple of times but it is clear that BOTH players must be inbounds for the pass to be complete. If ONE player is out of bounds the pass is incomplete.