Rulebook rarities?

[waltjp]

Seems a bit slow. Let's see if this works...

Just wondering - how many of you have seen some of the rulebook rarities, such as a free kick after an awarded fair catch? Or, rarer still, a team that was just scored upon choosing to kick the ball instead of receiving?

[MJT]

Originally posted by waltjp
Seems a bit slow. Let's see if this works...

Just wondering - how many of you have seen some of the rulebook rarities, such as a free kick after an awarded fair catch? Or, rarer still, a team that was just scored upon choosing to kick the ball instead of receiving?

I bet now a single coach knows if they were just scored on, that they could kick off. If they did it, that would be there last game they coached.

[ABoselli]

Had a free kick after a fair catch this year. Team that did it was leading 55-6 at the time and there was just over a minute left in the game. They said afterwards that they just wanted to "practice it".

They had to practice sanding in a line while one kid tried an unmolested kick? Luckily, he shanked it badly.

[kdf5]

In a sophomore game this year A was kicking a try. The noseguard was on all fours at the snap and never moved. The linebacker came running up, lept onto the back of the NG then into the air and over the LOS to try and block the kick. The boys did it on their own, their coach knew nothing of it. It was pure luck that I got the signal right.

[cdnRef]

Had a field goal from a free kick after a fair catch a few years back...high punt from the end zone came down to R at about the 25 or so...the team that kicked the field goal was down by two points at the time with about 20 seconds on the clock.

[MJT]

Originally posted by kdf5
In a sophomore game this year A was kicking a try. The noseguard was on all fours at the snap and never moved. The linebacker came running up, lept onto the back of the NG then into the air and over the LOS to try and block the kick. The boys did it on their own, their coach knew nothing of it. It was pure luck that I got the signal right.

You just called a personal foul, correct? 9-4-2e

[kdf5]

Originally posted by MJT

You just called a personal foul, correct? 9-4-2e

I did. I had no clue but needed to give some signal and gave that one. After, I thought it should have been an UC, but looked it up and had gotten it right.

[waltjp]

I'm not sure how many coaches are aware that they can choose to kick after being score upon. I do think this might be a good option if a team just scored to bring themselves within a TD with very little time left on the clock. Instead of receiving and risking the opponents recovering an onsides kick at midfield, kick it deep and let them take their Hail Mary from 70 yards away instead of 45 or 50.

[KWH]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kdf5

...I thought it should have been an UC, but looked it up and had gotten it right.

kdf5 -
Remember UC are always non-contact fouls,
while,
PF's are (almost*) always contact fouls

* the exceptions are is a swing and a miss, a kick and a miss, or a knee and a miss. While these acts did not actually involve contact, they are considered PF's

[kdf5]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KWH

Originally posted by kdf5

kdf5 -
Remember UC are always non-contact fouls,
while,
PF's are (almost*) always contact fouls

* the exceptions are is a swing and a miss, a kick and a miss, or a knee and a miss. While these acts did not actually involve contact, they are considered PF's

I agree with you, but how many PF's are against your teammate, which is the case here?

[Edited by kdf5 on Dec 8th, 2004 at 04:53 PM]

[MJT]

Originally posted by waltjp
I'm not sure how many coaches are aware that they can choose to kick after being score upon. I do think this might be a good option if a team just scored to bring themselves within a TD with very little time left on the clock. Instead of receiving and risking the opponents recovering an onsides kick at midfield, kick it deep and let them take their Hail Mary from 70 yards away instead of 45 or 50.

That is an interesting thought.

[PSU213]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KWH

Originally posted by kdf5

kdf5 -
Remember UC are always non-contact fouls,
while,
PF's are (almost*) always contact fouls

* the exceptions are is a swing and a miss, a kick and a miss, or a knee and a miss. While these acts did not actually involve contact, they are considered PF's

As for the exceptions, they are meant to invovle contact.

And as for the issue of the USC, more important than the signals that involve the "jumping off" a teammate, USC (and specifically multiple USC's) have consequences, and the enforcement for a PF and for a USC are very different.

[Dommer1]

In NCAA, the correct signal actually is the unsportsmanlike conduct signal. 15 yards, previous spot.

Penalized as a live ball foul, of course. If somebody climbs up on a teammates back before the snap, than it is a dead ball foul.

Edit: NOT an automatic first down. USC's never are.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by cdnRef
Had a field goal from a free kick after a fair catch a few years back...high punt from the end zone came down to R at about the 25 or so...the team that kicked the field goal was down by two points at the time with about 20 seconds on the clock.

Nice..... Canadian rules?

[Matt-MI]

Saw a free kick after a fair catch in a state championship game last year.