Incomplete or a fumble?

[AlexH]

I'll have to disagree with Base.

The forward pass actually starts at the point of forward motion - of the passers hand. Not where the ball leaves his hand. I know this is a small difference. But i actually sounds like this is the situation where it could make a diffence.

To explain further. The point where the forward pass starts i often around the passers shoulder, or just behind. The ball normally is not fully released until some point infront of the passer - often the thigh area.