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Snake~eyes Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:30am
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Originally posted by mcrowder
I might argue that neither has possession in the air, as it requires landing in bounds to demonstrate possession (remember the whole catch-out-of-bounds-in-the-air and pitch thread?). Until they land, neither has possession.
Ed, I disgaree with you on this, I'm with Mcrowder. Read the definition of possesion, which says a player is in posession when he/she catches it, then read the deifnition of a catch. The requirement is that a player must be touching inbounds.

Ed Hickland Thu Oct 28, 2004 01:03pm
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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
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Originally posted by mcrowder
I might argue that neither has possession in the air, as it requires landing in bounds to demonstrate possession (remember the whole catch-out-of-bounds-in-the-air and pitch thread?). Until they land, neither has possession.
Ed, I disgaree with you on this, I'm with Mcrowder. Read the definition of possesion, which says a player is in posession when he/she catches it, then read the deifnition of a catch. The requirement is that a player must be touching inbounds.
You are right 2.4.3 Comment and 7.4.3.

Consider this, A1 and B1 jointly control a pass in flight but from the contact land out of bounds.

mcrowder Thu Oct 28, 2004 01:07pm
This is going to be a tough one to sell to the coaches, but if they both had the ball in the air, and the contact forced them out of bounds, you have A's ball - complete pass.

Snake~eyes Thu Oct 28, 2004 07:18pm
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Originally posted by Ed Hickland
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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
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Originally posted by mcrowder
I might argue that neither has possession in the air, as it requires landing in bounds to demonstrate possession (remember the whole catch-out-of-bounds-in-the-air and pitch thread?). Until they land, neither has possession.
Ed, I disgaree with you on this, I'm with Mcrowder. Read the definition of possesion, which says a player is in posession when he/she catches it, then read the deifnition of a catch. The requirement is that a player must be touching inbounds.
You are right 2.4.3 Comment and 7.4.3.

Consider this, A1 and B1 jointly control a pass in flight but from the contact land out of bounds.
I agree with that scenario but that is not the one you said.

Exkalybr Tue Nov 02, 2004 03:39am
Thanks for the clarification, I did not know that a ball in "Joint Posession" immediately becomes dead when both players "possess it". I thought that the A player, not having been downed, and the B player with their hands on the ball fighting over it, A player tries to advance a few more yards and B takes it away from him was legal. I stand corrected.

Forksref Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:47pm
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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Has anyone ever called joint posession on a catch?
Yep, and A gets the ball.


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