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MI Official Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:22pm

HAd an IW on a loose ball play friday. The team chose to replay (they lost the fumble)the down. As we explain to other team, head coach says "you're boning me here." our WH say "yes, but we are boning you by the rules" HC laughs and say "I know". we all got a kick out of that ( and a free round by the IW blower)

SouthGARef Tue Oct 12, 2004 01:12pm

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Originally posted by MI Official
HAd an IW on a loose ball play friday. The team chose to replay (they lost the fumble)the down. As we explain to other team, head coach says "you're boning me here." our WH say "yes, but we are boning you by the rules" HC laughs and say "I know". we all got a kick out of that ( and a free round by the IW blower)

Well then, the team shouldn't have had a choice. Loose ball plays involving an IW are automatically replayed.

Threw a late hit against the worst team in the state a few weeks ago. I was working HL and it was against the home team so I relayed the number and the fact that he hit after the whistle through my white hat. The white hat (I get this story at half) went over and told the coach "24 hit after the whistle coach." The coach replied "That's horse$&!t, and I know it." The white hat said he told the coach that it was indeed after the whistle, and the coach said "Come on, he hasn't hit before the whistle all year--and now you're telling me he's hitting people after the whistle?!"

FredFan7 Tue Oct 12, 2004 01:50pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SouthGARef
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Originally posted by MI Official
The white hat (I get this story at half) went over and told the coach "24 hit after the whistle coach." The coach replied "That's horse$&!t, and I know it." The white hat said he told the coach that it was indeed after the whistle, and the coach said "Come on, he hasn't hit before the whistle all year--and now you're telling me he's hitting people after the whistle?!"

That is funny. NFL films putting mics on the coaches have definatly have a trickle down effect on sideline comments. :-)

Bob M. Tue Oct 12, 2004 02:30pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SouthGARef
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Well then, the team shouldn't have had a choice. Loose ball plays involving an IW are automatically replayed.
REPLY: Not true in Federation ball. If an IW is blown while the ball is loose following a fumble, illegal kick, illegal forward pass, or backward pass, the team last in possssion has the choice of replaying or having the down count where the runner lost possession.

cmathews Tue Oct 12, 2004 03:16pm

The confusion comes from whether it was a loose ball play or a loose ball during a running play....I think it was a loose ball during a running play and therefore administered correctly with options given....oh no...here we go with what options to provide :D

PSU213 Tue Oct 12, 2004 03:28pm

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Originally posted by cmathews
The confusion comes from whether it was a loose ball play or a loose ball during a running play....I think it was a loose ball during a running play and therefore administered correctly with options given....oh no...here we go with what options to provide :D
I agree with cmathews. The ball was loose, but this is not necessarily a loose ball play (and just because a play is a loose ball play, that does not influence IW options, if there are any).

The ball is loose following a fumble so NF Rule 4-2-3b is in effect. A gets the choice of replaying the down or putting the ball in play where possession was lost.

dumbref Tue Oct 12, 2004 04:13pm

About the third play of the game, my linesman went to the visting coach (which has about 27 assistants) and said "Help me out coach, only three coaches in the box". The coach replied, "You going to count them all night?" My linesman said, "No Sir, I expect you to." and immediately extended a sideline warning!

I never saw more than three the rest of the night!


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