Loss of Down
 

Doesn't the loss of down portion of the illegal forward pass negate any chance to run a play. I have always been under the understanding that any penalty that included loss of down could end the game. Now maybe I'm wrong and if I am I'm sure you guys will let me know, but I think that's the answer.

Re: Loss of Down
 

No it does not. It is only a loss of down if the line to gain had not been made after the 5 yards are marked off.

Maybe they should introduce an exception. If the foul contains a loss of down, the right to extend the period is also lost.

the 10 second runoff whould not apply here as the period already ended and is extended by an UNTIMED down

REPLY: And how would you handle it if it was 4th down and the LOD would have turned the ball over to B for the untimed down?

If the QB is allowed to scramble for 45 yards, his team should get something out of it. Look at it this way, he legally gained 45 yards before he committed a foul.

Sometimes you can only hope the game ends at the end of the field closest to your car. Yes, A gets the untimed down even though it doesn't seem quite fair to B. It is, however, an accepted penalty on the last timed down of a period. It does put B in a weird situation by keeping A from winning but giving them another chance. We have discussed this play at our meetings in Calif. The mechanic we adopted is 1)Run the play, 2)Blow the whistle 3)Run away fast!