Darin Hayes Question #6

my3sons

My point I guess is that, isn't it offensive pass interferance and not the ruling listed

Texoma_LJ

I'm a relative newbie, so think I'll take a crack.
It is not pass intereference as the ineligible is in or behind the neutral zone. Now if the ineligible is beyond the neutral zone, I am thinking it is OPI and would also be ineligible downfield.

jumpmaster

If the ball is touched by an ineligible down field it is OPI (FED 7-5-10b)

If the ball is not touched by an ineligible, then you merely have an ineligible down field (FED 7-5-12)

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My3sons, this rule 7-5-13 is the correct ruling in the play provided in Mr. Hayes article.

my3sons

In this play if A78 is beyond the neutral zone. Then 7-5-10b applies. No B player has touched the ball, wouldn't that be pass interferance. I am going by Table 7-5. Just trying to understand this rule.

Snake~eyes

It is OPI beyond the neutral zone, illegal touching in or behind.

Patton

In the situation, A78 was beyond the expanded neutral zone. Therefore, the correct call is OPI. A would have 3rd and 22 from B's 39 for one untimed down.

jumpmaster

Originally posted by my3sons
...The forward pass instead sails high, untouched in the air towards the neutral zone where offensive guard A78 catches it at B's twenty yard line and advances beyond B's goal line...

I read this statement as the ball is caught in or behind the neutral zone. I believe that is Mr. Hayes intent.

Why not send him a note? His email is posted at the bottom of the article.

GBFBUmp

Originally posted by jumpmaster

Originally posted by my3sons
...The forward pass instead sails high, untouched in the air towards the neutral zone where offensive guard A78 catches it at B's twenty yard line and advances beyond B's goal line...

I read this statement as the ball is caught in or behind the neutral zone. I believe that is Mr. Hayes intent.

Why not send him a note? His email is posted at the bottom of the article.

Sounds like A78 caught past the NZ..... LOS =24 he catches at 20? OPI in my opinion. BTW, does the rule include the ENZ, or just the NZ for OPI versus touching?

Patton

Originally posted by jumpmaster

Originally posted by my3sons
...where offensive guard A78 catches it at B's twenty yard line

I read this statement as the ball is caught in or behind the neutral zone. I believe that is Mr. Hayes intent.

How is it caught in or behind the neutral zone when it clearly states B's 20 yard line?

my3sons

I sent an e-mail to Darin a couple of days ago. I am waiting for his reply.

Bob M.

REPLY: As written, this is OPI. And to answer a question posed above, it is OPI if an ineligible A player touches a forward pass beyond the neutral zone before a player of B has touched it.

KSRef

I agree. As written, this is OPI. 15 yards from previous spot, LOSS OF DOWN, and A gets one untimed down. Now - If this had been 4th down, would "A" get an untimed down, or would they have lost that right.

Patton

Originally posted by KSRef
If this had been 4th down, would "A" get an untimed down, or would they have lost that right.

B would get one untimed down if this were the case.

jumpmaster

Originally posted by Patton

Originally posted by jumpmaster

Originally posted by my3sons
...where offensive guard A78 catches it at B's twenty yard line

I read this statement as the ball is caught in or behind the neutral zone. I believe that is Mr. Hayes intent.

How is it caught in or behind the neutral zone when it clearly states B's 20 yard line?

My mistake, I missed the part about catch at B's twenty yard line...I hate it when I do that. In this case, this is OPI not illegal touching. sorry about that.