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PSU213 Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:06pm
Sorry, this is turning into a pet peeve of mine, so I have to bring it up (okay, so it probably does not qualify as an axiom).

Situation: A 1/10 at their own 20. A1 runs the ball to the A-25. During the run A2 holds B1 at the: (a) A-21 or (b) A-29.

"Axiom:" In (a) apply the all-but-one principle, but don't apply it in (b).

Deep Tue Sep 21, 2004 07:24am
Quote:
Originally posted by PSU213
Situation: A 1/10 at their own 20. A1 runs the ball to the A-25. During the run A2 holds B1 at the: (a) A-21 or (b) A-29.

"Axiom:" In (a) apply the all-but-one principle, but don't apply it in (b).
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your point. Why wouldn't you apply the all-but-one principle in both cases? Or maybe you are saying that there are officials that don't?

Snake~eyes Tue Sep 21, 2004 08:58am
That's what he is saying.

PSU213 Thu Sep 23, 2004 09:47pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Deep
Quote:
Originally posted by PSU213
Situation: A 1/10 at their own 20. A1 runs the ball to the A-25. During the run A2 holds B1 at the: (a) A-21 or (b) A-29.

"Axiom:" In (a) apply the all-but-one principle, but don't apply it in (b).
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your point. Why wouldn't you apply the all-but-one principle in both cases? Or maybe you are saying that there are officials that don't?
Many people say you don't apply it in situations like (b), but you apply it for almost all live-ball fouls.

lazebra Fri Sep 24, 2004 02:40pm
I am not sure who has excluded a live ball foul by A from all-but-one. All accepted penalties for live ball fouls by A are either enforced under "all" (from the basic spot) or "but-one" (spot of the foul).

PSU213 Fri Sep 24, 2004 07:10pm
Quote:
Originally posted by lazebra
I am not sure who has excluded a live ball foul by A from all-but-one. All accepted penalties for live ball fouls by A are either enforced under "all" (from the basic spot) or "but-one" (spot of the foul).
I see it all the time on here.


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