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JRutledge Sun Aug 29, 2004 09:26pm

We have talked about this a lot. I just thought this was the best place to post the information. Here is some idea of what the Big Ten will do with their Instant Replay system this season.


Big Ten Instant Replay

Peace


Snake~eyes Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:41pm

Wow, I had the general idea of how it was going to work, that's kind of more detailed. Very interesting. I will be interested in what plays the replay techs pass on.

KWH Mon Aug 30, 2004 06:29pm

3a? Runner ruled not down by defensive contact?
 
In Rut's link under FAQ's it has a questionable review. It states:

Q. What calls are subject to review under instant replay?
A. The following plays are subject to review under instant replay:
3. Other Detectable Infractions:
<b> a. Runner ruled not down by defensive contact. </b>

My best guess is this is a cut and paste issue. Or am I missing something?
Last time I checked the NCAA rules when a runner is down the play is over! Down by contact is not a factor...

PSU213 Thu Sep 02, 2004 02:26am

Re: 3a? Runner ruled not down by defensive contact?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by KWH
In Rut's link under FAQ's it has a questionable review. It states:

Q. What calls are subject to review under instant replay?
A. The following plays are subject to review under instant replay:
3. Other Detectable Infractions:
<b> a. Runner ruled not down by defensive contact. </b>

My best guess is this is a cut and paste issue. Or am I missing something?
Last time I checked the NCAA rules when a runner is down the play is over! Down by contact is not a factor...

I don't really have any idea why they included the words "defensive contact," but I assume that means they will review plays where the offensive player's knee may have touched the ground but the play continued.

Here is my question on the issue, and I hope someone could shed some light on the situation. In interconference games, replay can be used if the visiting (non-Big Ten) team agrees to it. Often time the road team "brings" the officials. Will those officials be "updated" on how replay works? Again, any information on the subject is appreciated.

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 05:25am

Re: Re: 3a? Runner ruled not down by defensive contact?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PSU213
Here is my question on the issue, and I hope someone could shed some light on the situation. In interconference games, replay can be used if the visiting (non-Big Ten) team agrees to it. Often time the road team "brings" the officials. Will those officials be "updated" on how replay works? Again, any information on the subject is appreciated.
The replay will only be used in non-conference game if the away team agrees to it. If they do not agree to it, they will not use it. Just that simple.

Peace

WindyCityBlue Thu Sep 02, 2004 01:31pm

From JRutledge

"I wish we still lived in a time when I could challenge you to a duel."--Senator Zen Miller (D) Georgia



His name is Zell Miller and this genius voted against the Civil Rights Act and vetoed the ban on Kevlar piercing bullets when he was governor. This wouldn't be someone I would quote on a bet.

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 01:47pm

O......Kaaaayyy!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
From JRutledge

"I wish we still lived in a time when I could challenge you to a duel."--Senator Zen Miller (D) Georgia

His name is Zell Miller and this genius voted against the Civil Rights Act and vetoed the ban on Kevlar piercing bullets when he was governor. This wouldn't be someone I would quote on a bet.

I did not use the quote as a sign of admiration. I used the quote because I thought it was funny. I do not care what he voted for, I am not voting for anything that he supports anyway. ;)

Peace

WindyCityBlue Thu Sep 02, 2004 02:12pm

Are you opposed to getting his name right?

As I said, and you ignored, his name is Zell Miller!

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 02:18pm

Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Are you opposed to getting his name right?

As I said, and you ignored, his name is Zell Miller!

I do not care what his name is. What kind of name is Zell? ;)

Peace

Jurassic Referee Thu Sep 02, 2004 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Are you opposed to getting his name right?

As I said, and you ignored, his name is Zell Miller!

You sure it's not Lophonso Ellis? :D

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 02:20pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Are you opposed to getting his name right?

As I said, and you ignored, his name is Zell Miller!

You sure it's not Lophonso Ellis? :D

LOL!!!

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Bob Lyle Thu Sep 02, 2004 03:53pm

HUH
 
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
From JRutledge

"I wish we still lived in a time when I could challenge you to a duel."--Senator Zen Miller (D) Georgia



His name is Zell Miller and this genius voted against the Civil Rights Act and vetoed the ban on Kevlar piercing bullets when he was governor. This wouldn't be someone I would quote on a bet.

The Civil Rights act was passed in 1964. The attached URL is Zell Millers biography. I don't see anything about him being in Congress in 1964.

http://miller.senate.gov/jtf.htm

According to his biography, although he ran for Congress unsuccessfully many times, he never got there until the year 2000. I don't recall any Civil Rights acts in the last four years.

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 04:11pm

At the end of the day.......
 
who cares?

I do not care if the man was a member of the Klan like Robert C. Byrd was from the State of West Virginia. I use the quote because it was funny. If you saw the man live last night on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, you would have found it funny too. The man went nuts and challenged Matthews to a dual so to speak. It was one of the funniest things I have ever seen from a politician.

So what if I messed up the man's name. People misspell my first name all the time.

Peace

WindyCityBlue Thu Sep 02, 2004 04:25pm

Re: HUH
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bob Lyle
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
From JRutledge

"I wish we still lived in a time when I could challenge you to a duel."--Senator Zen Miller (D) Georgia



His name is Zell Miller and this genius voted against the Civil Rights Act and vetoed the ban on Kevlar piercing bullets when he was governor. This wouldn't be someone I would quote on a bet.

The Civil Rights act was passed in 1964. The attached URL is Zell Millers biography. I don't see anything about him being in Congress in 1964.

http://miller.senate.gov/jtf.htm

According to his biography, although he ran for Congress unsuccessfully many times, he never got there until the year 2000. I don't recall any Civil Rights acts in the last four years.

According to CNN, he has been a legislator for over fifty years. They claimed he did it while Governor, thus the original wording of my post. He also voted against affirmative action while in that seat.

WindyCityBlue Thu Sep 02, 2004 04:27pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Are you opposed to getting his name right?

As I said, and you ignored, his name is Zell Miller!

You sure it's not Lophonso Ellis? :D

Your-An-***-ic,

Do you really want to start another battle? I thought you were just preaching about respect and expecting more from officials. Tsk, tsk!!!

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 04:34pm

Re: Re: HUH
 
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue


According to CNN, he has been a legislator for over fifty years. They claimed he did it while Governor, thus the original wording of my post. He also voted against affirmative action while in that seat.

How can a Governor veto an act that is being considered by Congress? <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_2v.gif' alt='Hmm' border=0></a>

Do not answer, just found that statement odd. <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_5.gif' alt='Ummm' border=0></a>

Peace

Jurassic Referee Thu Sep 02, 2004 04:55pm

Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Are you opposed to getting his name right?

As I said, and you ignored, his name is Zell Miller!

You sure it's not Lophonso Ellis? :D

Your-An-***-ic,

Do you really want to start another battle? I thought you were just preaching about respect and expecting more from officials. Tsk, tsk!!!

Sorry.

I know that I shouldn't bait weaker officials. :D

SoGARef Thu Sep 02, 2004 07:12pm

A lot of us in Georgia are proud of him!
 
MILLER, Zell Bryan, a Senator from Georgia; born in Young Harris, Georgia, on February 24, 1932; graduated Young Harris College 1953; served in U.S. marine corps 1953-1956; graduated University of Georgia 1957, MastersÂ’ degree 1958; businessman; professor of political science and history; mayor of Young Harris 1959-1961; Georgia state senator 1961-1965; member, state Board of Pardons and Paroles 1973-1975; lieutenant governor of Georgia 1975-1991; Governor of Georgia 1991-1999; appointed on July 24, 2000, as a Democrat to the United States Senate to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Paul Coverdell; took the oath of office on July 27, 2000; elected as a Democrat to the United States Senate in a November 2000 special election for the remainder of the term ending January 3, 2005.

He has said many controversial things and some IMHO have been right on. Such as, when he said on the Senate floor that rap music is crap.

Bob Lyle Thu Sep 02, 2004 07:28pm

HUH again
 
Quote:

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue

According to CNN, he has been a legislator for over fifty years. They claimed he did it while Governor, thus the original wording of my post. He also voted against affirmative action while in that seat.

For someone who constantly challenges Rutledge's veracity, you are mighty sloppy with your facts. Miller was in the Marine Corps until 1956 so he could not have been a legislator for "over 50 years." His Senate bio says that he entered politics in 1960. That was 44 years ago, not over "fifty years." He was selected as the Democratic Party's keynote convention speaker in 1992 to nominate Bill Clinton. This is hardly an honor that would have gone to a racist/right wing sympathizer as you made him out to be.

Miller was in the Georgia Legislature from 1960-64. The issue of affirmative action had not yet been invented in that time frame so he could not have voted against it. He was a two term Georgia governer in the 1990's and according to the archives of the Atlanta Constitution, he was selected as America's best governor in 1998. This is a hardly an honor that would have been bestowed on a closet racist.

For someone who correctly belittles Rutledge for distorted facts and exaggerating, it appears that you are as guilty as he is. Voting against affirmative action is not the same as voting against the 1964 Civil Rights act as you claimed in your initial post. Lots of well meaning Americans, including our Supreme Court, have reservations about affirmative action.

Face it Windy, you lied. You are no better than the one that you constantly do battle with.

JRutledge Thu Sep 02, 2004 07:49pm

What does any of this have to do with the topic being discussed? I do not care what Zen, Zill, Zed did. I do not care what his political record is. I do not care what his future in politics. I do not care what the man had for breakfast in the morning.

I do think that folks spend a lot of time calling names around here. I do not think Windy is a liar because he got a fact incorrect. He does that all the time, but that does not make him a liar about this situation. And who cares if he is or not. This has nothing to do with the Big Ten Replay situation. My signature had nothing to do with this post. I just found the quote funny. This has nothing to do with post and has nothing to do with anything related to officiating or topics related to football.

I am going to close this post now. Windy, you know how to make a peaceful conversation into a crap house. Bob, your words are out of line. Windy is not lying, he is just misinformed. But that is often the case.

Peace


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