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gsf23 Mon Apr 05, 2004 09:18am

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...mqb/index.html

Snake~eyes Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:53am

Interesting article, I think every association aims for consistency, but it is very hard to acheive because evreyone is different, hopefully Mike Perena can get the crews cmore consisten. :)

JMN Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:31am

Seems odd to me that Periera didn't also suggest that the number of penalties is also a function of the teams playing. Some teams just commit more fouls than others.

Interesting technology being used by the NFL in terms of sharing video of fouls.

Anyone got the login and password to that website? :)

Bob M. Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:37am

REPLY: Snake-eyes is correct that you're never going to get 100% consistency since the participants are part of that chronically inconsistent machine known as the human race. However, there is a statistical tool that can measure the degree of variance within the data and begin to point out where there might be need for process improvement (maybe "training") above and beyond the question of individual judgement. Four of the crews lie in an area known as "outside of the control limits" for the data. That is, they lie more than one standard deveiation unit away from the average of the data. The two highest and two lowest fail this test even though the two lowest (Kukar and Austin) are very close to being in control. If all crews lay within control limits, you could justifiably say that individual judgement might account for the variance. That they don't says that there's something more at work here than judgement. There might be some fundamental differences in what philosophies these crews use when considering fouls. (Note: Humor me...I was a statistician in a prior life!)<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_102.gif' alt='Too Funny' border=0></a>

JMN Mon Apr 05, 2004 01:58pm

Bob M.,

Are you suggesting that some of the NFL officials are "outliers"?? :D

Surely not "outliars"!! :p


Bob M. Mon Apr 05, 2004 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JMN
Bob M.,

Are you suggesting that some of the NFL officials are "outliers"?? :D

Surely not "outliars"!! :p

REPLY: Yeah...And one of them I know will kill me if he ever reads this! Keep it our secret...<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_4_19v.gif' alt='Gossip' border=0></a>

Uncle Ernie Mon Apr 05, 2004 03:55pm

More analysis
 
Hey guys,

This is a good article. But, I think is lacking something. As usual, we only get half the story. What I would like to see Mr. King do is complete the analysis.

For example, since Anderson's crew led the league in number of penalties per game, how many of those games involved teams that lead the league in penalties. And, out of those penalties, how many were of the false start, offside variety.

Conversly, did Austins crew work the teams that didn't foul as much?

It would be fun to see what kind of answers would come out of this analysis.

This could be what they are looking for with consistency. Maybe one crew is more liberal with FS's and OS.

Who knows?


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