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slippery rock Sat Nov 29, 2003 09:19pm
In NCAA football, is the Unsportsmanlike Conduct Penalty in a "Deadball" situation an automatic first down?

I say it is not an automatic first down.

Thanks in advance.

WesTexRef Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:23pm
Unsportsmanlike fouls are not automatic first downs. Personal Fouls however are auto 1st downs.

Ed Hickland Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:35pm
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Originally posted by WesTexRef
Unsportsmanlike fouls are not automatic first downs. Personal Fouls however are auto 1st downs.
"Flagrant" personal fouls requiring disqualification by Team B are automatic first downs.

Bob M. Wed Dec 03, 2003 03:23pm
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Originally posted by Ed Hickland
"Flagrant" personal fouls requiring disqualification by Team B are automatic first downs.
REPLY: Ed, I assume you're referring to Federation rules. Where exactly do Fed rules say that flagrant PFs against B come with an automatic first down?? I don't believe you're correct on this one.

Theisey Wed Dec 03, 2003 04:03pm
I was having trouble trying to come up with a NFHS one too.
Defensive PFs under NCAA will result in an auto-1st.

Snake~eyes Wed Dec 03, 2003 04:44pm
Only automatic first downs for NFHS are:
Roughing the passer, kicker, holder or center. And Defensive Pass Interference.

Ed Hickland Wed Dec 03, 2003 05:31pm
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Originally posted by Bob M.
Quote:
Originally posted by Ed Hickland
"Flagrant" personal fouls requiring disqualification by Team B are automatic first downs.
REPLY: Ed, I assume you're referring to Federation rules. Where exactly do Fed rules say that flagrant PFs against B come with an automatic first down?? I don't believe you're correct on this one.
Not referring to NFHS rules. Took a look at the NCAA Rule Book.

Bob M. Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:17pm
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Originally posted by Ed Hickland
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob M.
Quote:
Originally posted by Ed Hickland
"Flagrant" personal fouls requiring disqualification by Team B are automatic first downs.
REPLY: Ed, I assume you're referring to Federation rules. Where exactly do Fed rules say that flagrant PFs against B come with an automatic first down?? I don't believe you're correct on this one.
Not referring to NFHS rules. Took a look at the NCAA Rule Book.
REPLY: Thanks Ed...I agree, with one point of clarification. In NCAA, the personal foul by the defense need not be flagrant to award an automatic first down. Any PF by B will result in an auto first.


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