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Old Fri Nov 10, 2023, 10:52pm
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Disagree. He does not have to materially affect the play to participate. He must "cease involvement with the play." NFHS 9.6.4 Situation F
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Old Sat Nov 11, 2023, 01:48pm
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Disagree. He does not have to materially affect the play to participate. He must "cease involvement with the play." NFHS 9.6.4 Situation F
Fine, but what does "involvement" mean? 1-5-1 says, "Each player shall participate while wearing the following pieces of properly fitted equipment,"

The foul in question is a violation of the "illegal participation" provisions, under 9-6-4(g): "For a player whose helmet comes completely off during a down to continue to participate beyond the immediate action in which the player is engaged."

2-30 defines "participation" as "any act or action by a player or nonplayer that has an influence on play."

Clearly "any action...that has an influence on play" can't be understood literally, or it would include people's sending signals in from the bench. That's why I use the phrase "materially affect"; signals are not material.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2023, 09:11pm
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Disagree. He does not have to materially affect the play to participate. He must "cease involvement with the play." NFHS 9.6.4 Situation F
I agree with this. If he pursues the player with the ball, it's a foul. It's not hard to discern this.
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Old Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:16pm
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I agree with this. If he pursues the player with the ball, it's a foul. It's not hard to discern this.
I'd agree that it'd be an easy call if one took "continues to play the whole down all the way to the endzone" to mean that he ran into the end zone. Since the play ended with the ball in the end zone, I just took it as meaning, "until the ball reached the end zone", during which time he might've been picking his nose or whatever.
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