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Old Fri Nov 27, 2020, 11:52pm
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Your question is who has the 'main' responsibility, that would be the LJ, because as by mechanics it is his job. But as with all clock errors, it is the crews responsibility! They all messed it up. In this situation, even LOS should know as the horn went off.
"because as by mechanics it is his job." Reference the Mechanics?
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Old Sat Nov 28, 2020, 09:55am
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1) the horn has nothing to do with it, this isn't basketball.
2) Potentially 1-3 officials are facing the/a clock- the WH and the U and BJ. In a six man crew, there would even be an extra set of eyes.
3) the FJ response about the play clock makes no sense if we are talking about the game clock.
4) there were :05 sec remaining and 6 guys out there and NOBODY thinks its important to watch the clock.
5) In a tight clock situation such as that, if I am the WH, I am communicating with my U before the play as to who has the eyes on the clock- me or him.

This situation arises from poor/no communication prior to the play; a play that everyone should acknowledge was in a tight time window. All six screwed up but the WH should be the leader and take primary responsibility for the lack of communciation. Blaming the LJ is rediculous- the LJ may be the primary timer by mechanic but I don't know a single LJ at the HS level that is worrying about time when there is a visible clock on the field and he has a LOS to monitor at the snap.

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Old Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:13am
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1) All six screwed up but the WH should be the leader and take primary responsibility for the lack of communication. Blaming the LJ is rediculous- the LJ may be the primary timer by mechanic but I don't know a single LJ at the HS level that is worrying about time when there is a visible clock on the field and he has a LOS to monitor at the snap.
Haven't talked to a single official that hasn't laughed at the Ref telling the LJ it was his call???? Bottomline is the Ref lost control of the game and the crew. So he blamed everyone else is what most have stated.
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Old Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:22am
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That's really an incorrect premise to draw.

The white hat is first among equals and should show leadership and insure that communication was made before the play but the whole crew f'd this up.

That being said, I'd have no problem with the LJ telling the R to do something anatomically impossible.

Learn from it, don't repeat it.

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Old Sun Nov 29, 2020, 01:05pm
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Send him this.

https://www.referee.com/what-it-real...-a-crew-chief/
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