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keystoneref Mon Oct 20, 2003 03:05pm

Has anyone seen the new version of the cap that the pros are wearing under their helmet. I went to my game on Friday night and the head coach of one team was asking a question wether they were legal in NF. It seems the week prior the officials made his players remove them when he saw them in the locker room prior to the game. For anyone that hasn't seen them, they look like fishnet with an elastic band around it. They fit tight on the head and are not visible when the helmet is on, and no part sticks out below the helmet. I am curious what other parts of the country are ruling on this.

simpson Mon Oct 20, 2003 03:22pm

In Kansas, we've been instructed by the state association to not allow them.

Tom Hinrichs Mon Oct 20, 2003 03:24pm

Why?
 
Why would you be instructed not to allow them. If they dont stick out under the helmet, why look for trouble?

Bob M. Mon Oct 20, 2003 03:26pm

REPLY: There's nothing in the Federation rules prohibiting their use. NCAA prohibits <u>visible</u> bandanas worn on the field or in the end zones.

Ed Hickland Mon Oct 20, 2003 03:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by keystoneref
For anyone that hasn't seen them, they look like fishnet with an elastic band around it. They fit tight on the head and are not visible when the helmet is on, and no part sticks out below the helmet. I am curious what other parts of the country are ruling on this.
What you describe sounds like a hairnet. what is the difference?

simpson Mon Oct 20, 2003 03:49pm

I'm not sure of the reasoning. I've been told by people much wiser than myself that it must have something to do with safety. They don't want anything between the head and the helmet.

As for not looking for trouble, if the kids have their helmets on, and you can't see it under their helmet, I'm not going to notice and I'm not going to say or do anything about it.

Bubba10Dara Mon Oct 20, 2003 04:10pm

In Tennessee they tell us that the kids are not to have them on, safety issue. We don't look for them, but what if during a timeout on the field the helmets come off and you got a kid with one on? We tell the coaches they can't wear them before game starts in our meeting.


ABoselli Mon Oct 20, 2003 04:53pm

Safety issue? How are they a danger? That's just nuts. As if we don't have enough to concern ourselves with, quibbling over a head covering is just making problems for ourselves.

JMN Mon Oct 20, 2003 06:50pm

OK
 
As long as we can't see them, we don't trouble trouble.

Snake~eyes Mon Oct 20, 2003 07:02pm

Like above, if it can be seen then it has to come off, otherwise we say nothing.

ABoselli Mon Oct 20, 2003 07:57pm

Even if I see them, I say nothing. They are not illegal equipment. Play on.

BktBallRef Mon Oct 20, 2003 09:37pm

Quote:

Originally posted by simpson
In Kansas, we've been instructed by the state association to not allow them.
Same policy hand down by the NCHSAA.

A couple of years ago, we had problems with a school where the players were wearing bandanas as gang colors. Now, all headwear such as this is illegal. It's not a penalty, they're just innstructed to remove it before entering the game.

CKRef Mon Oct 20, 2003 09:50pm

KY prohibits any bandanas based on proper fit of the helmet.

Theisey Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:08pm

Is there some scientific evidence published somewhere that states that a wearing a bandana causes a helmet to not fit properly?
What about a players hair style, hair thickness, shaved heads? If a paper thin bandana causes problems, so would hair or lack of it.
NF has no problems with this and neither do I.

CDcoach Tue Oct 21, 2003 09:55pm

http://www.underarmour.com/ua2/ua/de...=0001&mscssid=

These?

About 6 kids on the team I coach wear them...that's nuts. I make the kids wear black only which eliminates the gang thing. They also aren't allowed to take thier helmets of during the game, so that isn't a problem...but if an official walked in the locker room and made them take them off I wouldn't appreciate it at all.....


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