Free Kick Out of Bounds

[Middleman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You have to have a live ball to have this even take place. So if it is coupled with another foul during the kick, then you could choose to offset them if the receiving team committed a foul as well. Don't overcomplicate this.

Last year we got a new rule allowing R the option of having fouls by K enforced from the succeeding spot (10-4-2 Exception). Some of our officials think this means that R can select an option for the kick out of bounds, then ADD ON the penalty for the live ball foul committed by K during the kick. If kicking the ball out of bounds is a live ball foul, then R will have to choose enforcement of one or the other foul, but not both.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Middleman

Last year we got a new rule allowing R the option of having fouls by K enforced from the succeeding spot (10-4-2 Exception). Some of our officials think this means that R can select an option for the kick out of bounds, then ADD ON the penalty for the live ball foul committed by K during the kick. If kicking the ball out of bounds is a live ball foul, then R will have to choose enforcement of one or the other foul, but not both.

R can choose:
1) 5 yd penalty from the previous spot and rekick, or
2) Take the ball at the R-35, or
3) Take the ball at the OOB spot PLUS a 5 yd penalty.

I’m guessing some officials are incorrectly allowing R to take option 2 plus 5 yards?

[Middleman]

Originally Posted by CT1

R can choose:
1) 5 yd penalty from the previous spot and rekick, or
2) Take the ball at the R-35, or
3) Take the ball at the OOB spot PLUS a 5 yd penalty.

I’m guessing some officials are incorrectly allowing R to take option 2 plus 5 yards?

Well, that too. But what I was driving at was a live ball foul committed by K during the kick, such as Holding or Personal Foul, added on to the choice for the kick out of bounds.

Play: During a free kick, K65 blindsides R28 at the R-25 yard line. The kick rolls out of bounds untouched at the R-12 yard line. What choices does R have?

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Middleman

Well, that too. But what I was driving at was a live ball foul committed by K during the kick, such as Holding or Personal Foul, added on to the choice for the kick out of bounds.

Play: During a free kick, K65 blindsides R28 at the R-25 yard line. The kick rolls out of bounds untouched at the R-12 yard line. What choices does R have?

NFHS: 10-2-1: "t is a double foul if both teams commit fouls, other than nonplayer or USC, during the same live ball period. See a-c for details.... In a, b & c the penalties cancel and the down is replayed."

NFHS: 9-4 (Illegal personal Contact)-n: Execute a blindside block outside the FBZ with forceful contact unless initiated with open hands.

[HLin NC]

what I was driving at was a live ball foul committed by K during the kick, such as Holding or Personal Foul, added on to the choice for the kick out of bounds.

Multiple foul- R must choose which one they want.


ajmc- you need to re-read his post. Both fouls posited were by K

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Multiple foul- R must choose which one they want.


ajmc- you need to re-read his post. Both fouls posited were by K

Oops! (Nevermind)

[Mike51]

Originally Posted by Middleman

Well, that too. But what I was driving at was a live ball foul committed by K during the kick, such as Holding or Personal Foul, added on to the choice for the kick out of bounds.

Play: During a free kick, K65 blindsides R28 at the R-25 yard line. The kick rolls out of bounds untouched at the R-12 yard line. What choices does R have?

R can decline the FKOOB and take the ball at the spot where it went OOB (12 yd line) and then accept the PF from there.
Or R can decline the FKOOB and have the free kick repeated with a 15 yd penalty, backing K to the K25.
If A accepts the FKOOB, then they will have to decline the PF.
Can't get em both.