Running into punter

[yankeesfan]

4th and 8 R runs into kicker. Can that foul be tacked on the end of the punt? I know one of the options is 4th and 3 and re punt


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[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

I know one of the options is 4th and 3 and re punt

Not according to what I heard Wed. night in Newton by a NJ official called in to explain current Fed rules to youth football coaches. He said the only live ball fouls whose penalties carried the option of repeating a down during which the ball was subsequently kicked were those occurring in the neutral zone immediately after the snap. It seems if you want to repeat the down, you'd better not kick it -- like kicking away advantage in Rugby Union.

[yankeesfan]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Not according to what I heard Wed. night in Newton by a NJ official called in to explain current Fed rules to youth football coaches. He said the only live ball fouls whose penalties carried the option of repeating a down during which the ball was subsequently kicked were those occurring in the neutral zone immediately after the snap. It seems if you want to repeat the down, you'd better not kick it -- like kicking away advantage in Rugby Union.

Never heard of that.


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[ilyazhito]

The tack-on option only exists on fouls by K when R possesses the ball at the end of the play.
Running into the kicker can only be enforced at the previous spot, because it does not fit the requirements for tack-on fouls. This is because running into the kicker is a foul by R, not a foul by K.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Not according to what I heard Wed. night in Newton by a NJ official called in to explain current Fed rules to youth football coaches. He said the only live ball fouls whose penalties carried the option of repeating a down during which the ball was subsequently kicked were those occurring in the neutral zone immediately after the snap. It seems if you want to repeat the down, you'd better not kick it -- like kicking away advantage in Rugby Union.

You need better instructors.

Choice of declining the foul or 5 yards and replay 4th down. That's it.

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[CT1]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

4th and 8 R runs into kicker. Can that foul be tacked on the end of the punt? I know one of the options is 4th and 3 and re punt.

This doesn’t fit the requirements for PSK enforcement, since the foul occurred behind the ENZ. 4th & 3, or result of play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CT1

This doesn’t fit the requirements for PSK enforcement, since the foul occurred behind the ENZ. 4th & 3, or result of play.

He is likely referencing the situation with the new rule of tacking on the penalty during a kick (free or scrimmage), not a PSK foul.

Peace

[CT1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He is likely referencing the situation with the new rule of tacking on the penalty during a kick (free or scrimmage), not a PSK foul.

Peace

The new tack-on rule is for fouls by K. RTK is a foul by R.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CT1

The new tack-on rule is for fouls by K. RTK is a foul by R.

I know this already, but people have been getting confused and thinking all kicking play fouls apply to this new rule. I have had this conversation more than once to explain the difference.

Peace

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The tack-on option only exists on fouls by K when R possesses the ball at the end of the play.
Running into the kicker can only be enforced at the previous spot, because it does not fit the requirements for tack-on fouls. This is because running into the kicker is a foul by R, not a foul by K.

Beat me to it...