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Old Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:28am
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Multiple change of possession - with foul

Team A on own 25 yard line. Team B intercepts the ball at B's 40. During the return, Team A commits a 15 yard personal foul (blind side block). B returns to A's 30, fumbles, and is recovered by A.

B's ball at A's 15 yard line (added 15 yards to the end of the run, fumble "ignored." Is this the correct enforcement?
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:37am
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Team A on own 25 yard line. Team B intercepts the ball at B's 40. During the return, Team A commits a 15 yard personal foul (blind side block). B returns to A's 30, fumbles, and is recovered by A.



B's ball at A's 15 yard line (added 15 yards to the end of the run, fumble "ignored." Is this the correct enforcement?


The interception return is a running play. The foul is on the "defense". So all but one.

The foul is enforced from the beanbag - the fumble spot, which is the end of the related run. This could be the same spot as A's recovery or not - by rule the fumble isn't ignored - but A isn't getting the ball.


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Old Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:03am
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What Rich said.

Team B got the ball with clean hands, so they can keep the ball no matter what happens during the play after they gained possession.

The fumble isn't "ignored"... it becomes the end of the related run, which is a penalty enforcement spot. Since the foul is by the team not in possession, the penalty is enforced from the end of the related run.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:58pm
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All A's recovery did was assure that team B would not accept the result of the play -- which they might've if B recovered and wound up in a better spot. But you'd better give them the choice, because if A's recovery left them in a bad enough spot, even though with a new series, a defensive-minded team might prefer that. So neither B's fumble nor the play following it can be ignored.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:08pm
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All A's recovery did was assure that team B would not accept the result of the play -- which they might've if B recovered and wound up in a better spot. But you'd better give them the choice, because if A's recovery left them in a bad enough spot, even though with a new series, a defensive-minded team might prefer that. So neither B's fumble nor the play following it can be ignored.


B’s ball at A’s 15 after the penalty.

No good referee asks for options on this foul. The ones that do ask captains on everything. And that’s not good officiating.


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