Zach Miller catch followup

[FormerUmp]

Riveron explains Bears' TD overturn, predecessors skeptical | Football Zebras

It's interesting to see what the official explanation was. On the other hand, it's certainly discouraging that the NFL's Officiating Head could get a play so wrong. It seems as though it's representative of the replay decisions we've been seeing this year.

What do you guys, as football officials, think of the question at the end of the article? Are instant replay reviews becoming too technical?

I like replay review to fix the "obvious miss" (something that in itself is quite subjective), but I don't care for it on plays such as these, especially when an error is made.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

Riveron explains Bears' TD overturn, predecessors skeptical | Football Zebras

It's interesting to see what the official explanation was. On the other hand, it's certainly discouraging that the NFL's Officiating Head could get a play so wrong. It seems as though it's representative of the replay decisions we've been seeing this year.

What do you guys, as football officials, think of the question at the end of the article? Are instant replay reviews becoming too technical?

I like replay review to fix the "obvious miss" (something that in itself is quite subjective), but I don't care for it on plays such as these, especially when an error is made.

I want to see you either contribute here in a positive way from time to time or go away for good.

[FormerUmp]

Originally Posted by Rich

I want to see you either contribute here in a positive way from time to time or go away for good.

I do contribute positivitely. Deleting my posts for no reason, which has happened on two occasions, does make it hard to contribute.

This thread is a contribution. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to discuss our opinions on replay and the shortcomings of the system.

I haven't engaged in any official bashing. Obviously I've been critical in some cases but not unfair. This forum is for discussing all aspects of officiating, no? Not just what's done well?

Ultimately I'd like to be able to discuss rules and situations with the knowledgeable people here without it being needlessly censored or devolving into personal attacks.

[FormerUmp]

Do you guys feel as football officials that you'd review plays with a more or less technical eye than someone who hasn't officiated on the field?

From what I've read, the new centralized system was setup with Dean Blandino, who I don't believe was an on-field official, in mind. It seems as though "clear and convincing evidence" is no longer required to overturn. It seems as though the contrast from years past is due to new people making the decisions, but I don't know how there could be such a seemingly large gap.

In the context of this particular play, it seems to me like he was trying to be too "technical" and "saw" something that wasn't there. It's frustrating to me because replay should exist to fix the obvious mistake, not to seek out a technical reason for a reversal, which seems to be the trend this year.

[FormerUmp]

This play was ruled down by contact after review.

I'm not trying to bash officials. I'm trying to understand where the inconsistencies come from.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

This play was ruled down by contact after review.

I'm not trying to bash officials. I'm trying to understand where the inconsistencies come from.

He made a football move. What is the inconsistency?

Peace

[CT1]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

Do you guys feel as football officials that you'd review plays with a more or less technical eye than someone who hasn't officiated on the field?

I've thought about this. I believe I'd probably try to find a way to uphold the ruling on the field, unless it's painfully obvious that it was wrong ("50 drunk guys in a bar").

Which is what replay was supposed to be for in the first place.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by CT1

I've thought about this. I believe I'd probably try to find a way to uphold the ruling on the field, unless it's painfully obvious that it was wrong ("50 drunk guys in a bar").

Which is what replay was supposed to be for in the first place.

Maybe NFL holds a lottery each week and 50 guys (and gals) at random are admitted to the replay center and given beer. They vote on whether to overturn or uphold a call.