High School-TE Blocking Below Waist/Cut Block

[VA Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

Unless the TE is lined up split wide from the tackle, we usually put the TE in the zone at the snap for consistency purposes.

Any part of the player in the zone is in the zone.

That's interesting (no sarcasm intended). Our association puts the TE outside the zone unless the splits are narrow. I wonder how divided this actually is from state to state.

[jTheUmp]

Let's assume that each player's shoulders are 2 feet wide without any shoulder pads or anything on. (probably pretty close). Let's say 3 feet wide adding in shoulder pads and a bit of extra space. That's 1 yard.

So, if Center-Guard-Tackle-Tight End are lined up basically touching each other's shoulder pads, you've got 1/2 (center) + 1 (guard) + 1 (tackle) + 1 (TE) = 3 1/2 yards to the outside of the TE, so the TE would be in the zone.

If we're talking "normal" splits, you're probably looking at closer to 1.5 (center) + 2 (Guard) + 2 (tackle) = 5.5 yards, meaning the TE is outside of the blocking zone.

[Rolling Wolf]

Thanks for the information guys. I have had a couple of referees tell me that a TE could no longer block below the waist. I knew the dimensions of the free blocking zone and the change you pointed out about no clipping is the change I have forgotten. We run 2 foot splits and with our blocking scheme we rarely need our TE's to cut block but I had abandoned it all together based on what I was told. From what I am reading from you guys, this seems to be an interpretation rule based on alignment of the TE. We face an opponent this Friday night who pull their backside guard and tackle and cut block with the TE and they use about 2 foot splits. I will be talking to the white hat before the game to get his interpretation and how he is going to call it. Again thanks.

[VA Official]

Originally Posted by Rolling Wolf

Thanks for the information guys. I have had a couple of referees tell me that a TE could no longer block below the waist. I knew the dimensions of the free blocking zone and the change you pointed out about no clipping is the change I have forgotten. We run 2 foot splits and with our blocking scheme we rarely need our TE's to cut block but I had abandoned it all together based on what I was told. From what I am reading from you guys, this seems to be an interpretation rule based on alignment of the TE. We face an opponent this Friday night who pull their backside guard and tackle and cut block with the TE and they use about 2 foot splits. I will be talking to the white hat before the game to get his interpretation and how he is going to call it. Again thanks.

2 foot splits between the C/G, G/T, and T/TE leaves no doubt in my mind that the TE is outside the free blocking zone and there should be a flag if he blocks below the waist. Also, the R will more than likely not be making this call in the game. The flag would most likely come from the umpire.

[Rolling Wolf]

Thanks, I will meet with both so we have a clear understanding.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Rolling Wolf

We face an opponent this Friday night who pull their backside guard and tackle and cut block with the TE and they use about 2 foot splits. I will be talking to the white hat before the game to get his interpretation and how he is going to call it.

Usually teams using that style of play go with OL with little or no space between them, so in the FBZ. The "shoeshine" (as in to give your center a quick shoeshine by reaching your hands toward his feet) or "Superman" block tries to cut everyone rushing between center and end. Another problem occurs if the center is trying to block back into that space, because that can result in an inadvertent high-low or low-low combination.

Also if the shoeshining player is late, he might clip an opponent who's nearly past the neutral zone, or who's still in the neutral zone but turned away from the blocker. When someone dives into a sea of legs, it's got to be hard to tell whether he's hit any in the back. How do you rule if you think the blocker has hit the back of one leg and the front of the other leg of the same opponent? Is that in the "back" as used in the definition of clipping?

[Hand Signals]

Remember, if one toe of the tight end is in the FBZ than he is considered to be in the FBZ. Our association assumes the TE is in the zone.

[OKREF]

Speaking of the free blocking zone. I had a coach 2 games ago tell me that the defensive end can never be in the FBZ