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Old Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:48pm
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Arkansas/VT punt fumble...

Think it was 1:57 left in the second.

Ark punts, vt muffs it and ark player nearly comes up with it. Whistle blows before he gains possession and VT recovers the ball. Chaos ensues.

Thoughts on the final ruling? IW is ruled and Ark is given the ball.
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Old Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:18pm
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I was watching it without sound at the gym. They also called holding on VT on that play. I'm assuming since they gave the ball to Arkansas back near where they punted it (I didn't notice the exact yardage) after the official review that the holding was determined to be before the kick. I'm not positive about that, though.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2016, 12:52pm
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The hold was during the kick. They went with calling it an IW while the kick was loose, thus giving Arkansas the ball back plus the 10 yards from the previous spot giving them a first down. Replay should have ruled that VT recovered in the immediate continuing action and enforced the holding from the spot of recovery.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2016, 02:09pm
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Give me some time and I will post the video. The discussion is hilarious between the commentators which I cannot post all of this, but will show you the play. And replay played a role in this as well as to if there was possession by VT on the muff recovery.

Lesson most of all to be learned, DO NOT BLOW THE DARN WHISTLE UNTIL YOU SEE LEATHER!!!! How many times do we have to tell officials this and they get caught up into trying to "save the players" from some kind of injury or late hit. Who the freak cares if you do not blow the darn whistle? Wait and you still can throw a flag. Well this shows why you do not blow the whistle until you have the play actually over.

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Old Fri Dec 30, 2016, 02:41pm
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Here is the play and some discussion.


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Old Sat Dec 31, 2016, 12:11am
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So, let me ask regarding NCAA rules.

Without the IW, what is the enforcement spot for holding during the punt? Does it matter whether the hold was before or after the kick?

Does the IW change this equation? Given that this was reviewed in the booth, I have to assume the booth got the ruling correct.
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