I know this topic comes up what seems like every 6 months, however, I feel it is a good negotiating tool with the AD’s when you try to set your game fees. The list below is what I found on a previous post for 2002 games fees. If your area is not on the list or the figure is wrong could you please update it and keep us all informed.

Texas-Typical game fee check for the "highest" level games $110 to $150.
Michigan- Some conferences are at $60.
Alabama - $50 per game.
Illinois - Single Varsity Game $57
Westchester County, NY, - The varsity fee this year is $83.
Iowa - Payscale would range from $55.00 to $70.00
Northern California - each official is paid the same rate, $78.00
Tennessee - On field officials are paid $75
Long Island New York - Nassau County = $98
Louisiana - $55.00
Arkansas - Varsity - $60
Minnesota: Pay is between $60-$70 per official.
Indiana-- All varsity games $60
Kansas - 5-man crew and pay averages about $60 per man.
W. Va. - $60.00 regardless of class size
Ohio - $60.00
Philadelphia - $62.00 - 5 man crew
North Carolina - Varsity pay is $60 flat fee.

Thanks

In Illinois.
 

As I said on the other board, there is not set fee for my state. The pay varies by school and conference. And it is also not uncommon to be asked to do two games on a varsity night or afternoon. So it is hard to know what that fee is.

I do have a single varsity game this afternoon and tommorrow night. I will report what the fees are.

Peace

In Southern Wisconsin, the game fees range from $50 to $55. Some conferences pay mileage, some don't.

Anyhow, Friday night games aren't about the money. Saturday youth games are about little else :)

Rich

To be more specific for Texas here is the Varsity game fees based on a percentage of the gate fees. We also get .345 per round trip mile for travel.

Gross Gate Receipts One Game
Up to $150 35.00
$150 to $250 40.00
$250 to $500 45.00
$500 to $1,000 50.00
$1,000 to $2,000 55.00
$2,000 to $3,000 60.00
$3,000 to $4,000 65.00
$4,000 to $5,000 70.00
$5,000 to $7,500 75.00
$7,500 to $10,000 80.00
$10,000 to $12,500 85.00
$12,500 to $15,000 95.00
$15,000 to $17,500 105.00
$17,500 to $20,500 115.00
Each additional $5,000 25.00

Sub-Varsity and Junior High
1 game 35.00
2 games 60.00
3 games 85.00
4 games 110.00

Jason - which chapter are you in?

I'd add that subvarsity games are often right in the range Jason describes, but not always exactly what he listed. Got $100 for two 7th grade games in week one. Some of the Dallas area junior highs pay $25 per game, some pay up to $40.

Here in Wyoming we get $55/gm for varsity $40/sub varsity, and one person (driver gets 40 cents a mile round trip the others 4 cents a mile round trip)

I am in North Texas chapter. I'm sure that some schools are paying more because I have been getting $65 to work 2 Jr. High games and UIL mandates for 2 jr. high games to pay $60. Based off the UIL website the fees I listed are the maximum that they may pay, so it appears that these schools are in violation of the UIL rules. Here is the UIL rule I copied: FEE VIOLATIONS. The maximum fee listed should be paid to officials working varsity contests. For subvarsity contests, unless otherwise specified, fees less than the maximum may be negotiated between the chapter and the school. If a participant school exceeds the maximum fee schedule, the district executive committee shall meet as soon as possible to decide if an emergency warranted the excess fee(s). If the school in question proves an emergency caused the overpayment, the district executive committee does not have to assess a penalty.

So that mean for you guys the mileage is more pay than the game right? :D

In Indiana
 

There is not a set rate for teh state. Most conferences are at least up to $50, with many going to $55 & $60. There a few hidden locations that pay$70-$80 in the state. No compensation for miles.

I think this is a bad topic to discuss. That's like me at work discussing with all the employees, what they make for negotiating. I hope I am not over-reacting but..... This
topic to me is a little odd.

How are the gate receipt fees handled when several games are played on the same day at Texas Stadium or other large venue?

Hmmm...what's the harm in knowing what other states are paying game officials? It's certainly not unusual for officials to discuss such information.

And I have to disagree with you. It's not like two employees having this discussion at work, and then creating a hostile work environment because one makes more than another. That's inappropriate because of the situations it can breed in a singular workplace.

Apples to oranges, IMHO.

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Central Coast Ca.(Gilroy to King City) We get 52/45/40...3 seasons ago it was 47/37/27, thats for FED, V/JV/F....pop-warner has been 42 in the Monterey bay area, but 32 in the Gilroy/Hollister/Morgan Hill area..Now all are 45....cept Gilroy etc...now you get extra 30 to work R....I would have had bout 800 extra last season from that area:(

Fees, etc.
 

I think game fees should be increased at the same rate that the price on my new pair of knickers does!

Next year in Hawaii there will be a central state organizing body that will handle billings, mechanics, certifications, assignments, etc.

Right now each individual association handles the fees with the leagues they contract with.

NJ game fees
 

$72 in the Garden State (5 officials)

WarrenKicker,
In wyoming the mileage can get close to the game fees for sure...next week we have a 484 mile (round trip) game...271 dollars mileage 275 game fees, so yeah pretty close...

That's incredible.

And people think we do it for the money.

This trip got started 3 years ago. For anyone who is familiar with Wyoming or cares to check a map, we work out of Cheyenne, and the game is in Gillette. 3 years ago we got a playoff game assigned to us that was played in Gillette. The coach liked the job we did so he sends our association one contract per year, usually a rivalry game or what they think will be a hard fought contest...We have begun to couple this game with staying overnite and seeing how much differently golf balls travel in the NE corner of the state compared to the SE corner...so you are exaclty right BBR..not for the money :)

BTW 4 or 5 years ago I had a game that was over 600 miles round trip...again from Cheyenne to a place over by Evanston called Mountain View....that was a loooooonnnnngggggg day


[Edited by cmathews on Sep 26th, 2003 at 10:10 AM]

Game fees
 

In Il, the Land of Lincoln, in the the past 20 years
the game fees have went up $20-25 in my area, I know,
in the "suburbs" it might be slightly higher than
downstate. However, fees have certainly not paralleled
the cost of living.
We all, hopefully, don't do this for the money, but
a slight increase would be welcomed.
An earlier post mentioned the cost of knickers.
Game fees should be increased, so that if we have to put
gas in our car we should have enough left to still buy
a pizza. JMO

SD Game Fees for FB normally are between $50 - $70 per official, based on a 4 or 5 man crew.

I certainly respect your opinion....but I have to agree to disagree with you.

I work for a large corporation and even in other states it is not good to discuss. What if we have an official that says" In Texas they get a portion of the gate and travel money, Why can't we get that?"
To me this is a little funny. But like I said earlier I do respect everyones input and thoughts.

Discussing pay, as it relates to officiating is a healthy way for officials to 'gage' how their area is being compensated. Officiating is different than working for a company with a standard pay scale or for those who work on salary. At the work place where you interact with multiple level of employees daily, I agree that discussing your personal compensation is not right.

In general there is not an individual tier system for pay for the type of game you officiate. Officials work as independent contractors and as independent contractors we work on a 'piece' basis. We work a game (piece) we get paid for the game.

The information that is shared here is just that, information that can be taken to an association or state board or even a school and used for negotiation purposes. The bottom line is that fees around the country are negotiated and we as officials go after the amount that we can get from the area we live in.

I would love to see officiating.com keep track of game fees as it relates around the country and post that as a free area. If they would keep this info current, it would provide a service to officials for future negotiations.

To Ump76:

I can see your point about how discussing different fees can be a hard point to contend with. I wasn't sure that it was anything important until this last summer when my hockey officials association started negotiating for raises with the local ice rink. We come to find that men in Georgia are paying less to play more games than us while their referees get paid $10 more per game, plus extra fees if the game goes into overtime or starts late. We also found that the men's leagues in Seattle, WA play a few more games a year than our leagues and charge the same amount to their players, yet their ref's get paid from $40 to $60 depending upon the rink and level.

In my town we get paid $25 a game, nothing extra for OT, nothing extra for late finishes, and worst of all: Nothing extra for doing a game alone. While our economy is a bit tough and the rink is under new ownership (that seems to know how money works and is already doing something the previous owner of the rink couldn't do: make money), we were able to use information from several other leagues and officials associations to negotiate for a small pay raise this year and one for next year. It's a start, and with 22 adult teams playing with enough new players to make 2 new teams a year coming in, we've got a good argument that they can't refute. Moreover, we're the only officials association in 90 miles. Nobody else wants to come to our town to officiate and the players won't settle for untrained officials. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place, but we had to show them the hard place and they discovered the rock when the talked to the team captains.

While we certainly can't demand $40 a game, we have the leverage to get our first raise in 6 years. And we wouldn't have had that leverage if we didn't know what other professionals in our line of work were earning.

In Kentucky the state policy board has set our varsity fee at $45 per official per game. This is the minimum fee that can be paid in the state. Local policy boards can vote to pay more and most have. Our association receives $50 per official per game. We have found that the fees across the area range from $50 to $65 depending on your association affiliation.

For JV and Freshmen games, the game fee is set at $120 per game. This money is split depending on the number of official who call the game. If 4(the recommended crew size) call the game then each official receives $30. If 3 call then each official receives $40. If 2 call then each get $60. If you call it by yourself you get the entire $120.

For grade school we get $35 per official for an 8th grade game and $30 per official for any grade level below the 8th.

We are having problems in our area covering the sub-varsity games Monday thru Thursday because of Volleyball and girls grade school basketball being played. Our officials pool is relatively the same and now we have added sports during football season and the pool of officials is being stretched to the limits. It is really causing problems. My opinion, which of course doesn't really matter, Title IX has struck again and the only ones who have had to cancel and reschedule games are the boys and football. We are discussing the fees and possibly increasing them to make it more favorable to officiate the sub-varsity games Monday thru Thursday.

As we are independent contractors, there is nothing improper about talking about game fees.

For those of us lucky enough to be able to negotiate fees, this is valuable information.

Rich

Very good point I did not think about.

There wouldn't be a game if I were the only official present. That game fee would barely cover the first hour at your attorneys office!
Surely, no one would work a game alone done there. Right?

In the original post Michigan is listed as $60 in some conferences. These unfortunately are not in the Detroit metro area.

$50/varsity (5 man)
$75/sub varsity DH (4 man)
$35/middle school (3 man)