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Old Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:06pm
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I'm wondering how the MAC is officiating a Big 12 home game? Doesn't the home conference cover the contest?
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Old Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:27pm
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So, to my knowledge, no conference has ever done this, and I'm not sure that even here it would be a good idea, but...

The outcome of the game was demonstrably changed by a misapplication of a rule. There is no question about what would have happened if it had been called correctly. If ever there was a time for a conference to overturn a game result, this would be it.

Any chance this happens?
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Old Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:41pm
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I'm wondering how the MAC is officiating a Big 12 home game? Doesn't the home conference cover the contest?
There is no across the board policy. Often the visiting team brings in a crew, but some crews like the Pac-12 do not allow any other crews to come on their fields (at least that has been their policy for some time). Usually the teams not in the Power 5 are allowed to bring their crews in a visiting game. Now that being said, the MAC is apart of the consortium that involves the BIG and the Missouri Valley.

I am sure this entire situation will be talked about at our meeting on Tuesday. I am just wondering are any of the officials on this game from my area?

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Old Sat Sep 10, 2016, 11:09pm
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how the MAC is officiating a Big 12 home game
Non conference games are covered by the contract between schools. Sometimes, the visiting team's conference covers them, sometimes the home team's and other times they get them from a third conference. A Big 12 crew worked Houston vs. OU and a Pac 12 crew worked UCLA vs. A&M last week -- both road teams' conferences were at the game. Houston and College Station are an hour and a half apart and the crews should have just switched games.

I think the NCAA should require the third conference option.
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Side guy got in the way of the deep guy. Mechanics flub as well as a rules flub.

Having said that, the offense deliberately commited a foul and benefitted from it in the most perfect way - winning the game. Logic dictates that the non-offending team should be given something, and if that something is one untimed down where they win on a Hail Mary/lateral, then so be it.
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:17am
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Was this even IG? Wasn't done to conserve time or avoid loss of yardage.
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:04am
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Was this even IG? Wasn't done to conserve time or avoid loss of yardage.
True. A backward pass to the sideline would've accomplished the same result, and then IG wouldn't've even been considered.
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Was this even IG? Wasn't done to conserve time or avoid loss of yardage.
OL let DL by, and two of them were right on the QB. Had to throw or risk being sacked. A sack by definition is a loss of yards.
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Was this even IG? Wasn't done to conserve time or avoid loss of yardage.
Still in pocket, no receiver in area. Had he rolled out about 5 feet he would have been fine.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:28pm
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There is no across the board policy. Often the visiting team brings in a crew, but some crews like the Pac-12 do not allow any other crews to come on their fields (at least that has been their policy for some time). Usually the teams not in the Power 5 are allowed to bring their crews in a visiting game. Now that being said, the MAC is apart of the consortium that involves the BIG and the Missouri Valley.

I am sure this entire situation will be talked about at our meeting on Tuesday. I am just wondering are any of the officials on this game from my area?

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But it didn't satisfy the requirements to call it intentional grounding.
Maybe not, but I thought you were making a distinction between an illegal forward pass and intentional grounding. IG is a form of an illegal forward pass. Many don't know this, especially as it relates to using this rule instead of an illegal touching foul -- when there is no eligible receiver in the area and the QB throws it to a guard or tackle. If the QB is still in the pocket or the pass doesn't cross the line, the correct call is illegal forward pass rather than illegal touching.
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Maybe not, but I thought you were making a distinction between an illegal forward pass and intentional grounding. IG is a form of an illegal forward pass. Many don't know this, especially as it relates to using this rule instead of an illegal touching foul -- when there is no eligible receiver in the area and the QB throws it to a guard or tackle. If the QB is still in the pocket or the pass doesn't cross the line, the correct call is illegal forward pass rather than illegal touching.
That just came up a week ago or so in a discussion of Fed rules, which are substantially the same on this point.
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Old Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:53pm
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According to the MAC website all 10 officials received a 2 game suspension.
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Old Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:27pm
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I'm wondering how the MAC is officiating a Big 12 home game? Doesn't the home conference cover the contest?
Often when a team plays on the road out of conference, their league officials come with. The replay was big 12.
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