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Old Fri Sep 02, 2016, 11:21am
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The opening kickoff of Vandy/SC would also be a good play for discussion.
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Old Fri Sep 02, 2016, 11:47am
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The opening kickoff of Vandy/SC would also be a good play for discussion.
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Old Fri Sep 02, 2016, 12:24pm
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The entire ball didn't come out but his knee didn't touch the ground.
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Old Fri Sep 02, 2016, 01:33pm
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The entire ball didn't come out but his knee didn't touch the ground.
For NCAA the knee not touching the ground isn't relevant to this play. By rule, "the ball becomes dead ... when a ball carrier simulates placing his knee on the ground" (NCAA 4-1-3o). So if we determine the ball didn't leave the end zone, then we have a dead ball ending in the end zone and a touchback.
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Old Fri Sep 02, 2016, 06:14pm
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For NCAA the knee not touching the ground isn't relevant to this play. By rule, "the ball becomes dead ... when a ball carrier simulates placing his knee on the ground" (NCAA 4-1-3o). So if we determine the ball didn't leave the end zone, then we have a dead ball ending in the end zone and a touchback.
Did not know this. Thanks.
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Old Fri Sep 02, 2016, 07:40pm
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I could be wrong, but I think it was added to prevent teams from having the QB fake kneeling to get the defense to relax and then taking a shot right before halftime.
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Old Sat Sep 03, 2016, 01:02am
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Not a football official, but I like to think I know the rules. I look forward to the rest of the discussion in the thread.

#1. Penalty should be applied on the succeeding kickoff, I guess (???). (Rule 10, Art. 5) However, I freely admit I have no idea how halftime plays into this. (Sidebar: if it was an unsportsmanlike conduct personal foul, say, for fighting, is it enforced the same, i.e. after the half?)

#2. Incomplete. (NCAA AR 7-3-6 XIII)

#3. I personally don't have KCI here, but definitely targeting. Eject. (Forcible contact to head or neck of defenseless opponent; clearly the returner meets the qualifications of 2.14.d)

#4. We don't have a great angle here, but it doesn't look like the entire ball crosses the plane of the goal line. Touchback.
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Old Mon Sep 05, 2016, 10:58am
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Old Mon Sep 05, 2016, 02:09pm
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"No cheap scores, no cheap turnovers."
Given what it looks like SC was trying to pull here the cheapness would be well earned, unfortunately the ball never left the endzone.
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