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[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Aren't they among the "all"?

You may very well be confused. It would seem "ALL, but one" is a concept directed towards, and relates exclusively to, Offensive fouls.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ajmc

You may very well be confused. It would seem "ALL, but one" is a concept directed towards, and relates exclusively to, Offensive fouls.

Nope, you're the one who's confused.

All-but-one applies to ALL fouls. All fouls are enforced from the basic spot with the exception of the "one" - fouls committed behind the basic spot by the team with the ball at the time of the foul.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Rich

Nope, you're the one who's confused.

All-but-one applies to ALL fouls. All fouls are enforced from the basic spot with the exception of the "one" - fouls committed behind the basic spot by the team with the ball at the time of the foul.

When all else fails, Rich, read the rule book;":Football Penalty Enforcement, NFHS 10-6 (page 80, 2nd paragraph):

"Enforcement philosophy is based on the fact that a team is given the advantage of the distance which is gained without assistance of a foul. It is assumed that the only foul which would give this aid is a foul by the offense behind the basic spot. Therefore, all fouls but this one, that is a foul by the offense behind the basic spot are penalized from the basic spot unless the spot is otherwise specified by rule. This one foul is penalized from the spot of the foul."

This discussion started referencing a player (presumed to be an opponent/defensive player) tackling by the facemask. The concept of, "All-But-One" applies EXCLUSIVELY to Offensive fouls

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ajmc

When all else fails, Rich, read the rule book;":Football Penalty Enforcement, NFHS 10-6 (page 80, 2nd paragraph):

"Enforcement philosophy is based on the fact that a team is given the advantage of the distance which is gained without assistance of a foul. It is assumed that the only foul which would give this aid is a foul by the offense behind the basic spot. Therefore, all fouls but this one, that is a foul by the offense behind the basic spot are penalized from the basic spot unless the spot is otherwise specified by rule. This one foul is penalized from the spot of the foul."

This discussion started referencing a player (presumed to be an opponent/defensive player) tackling by the facemask. The concept of, "All-But-One" applies EXCLUSIVELY to Offensive fouls

You have just posted the definition of all-but-one. The "ALL" is EVERY OTHER FOUL, both offense and defense.

The "BUT ONE" refers to offensive fouls behind the basic spot.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Rich

You have just posted the definition of all-but-one. The "ALL" is EVERY OTHER FOUL, both offense and defense.

The "BUT ONE" refers to offensive fouls behind the basic spot.

I guess, sometimes even reading EXACTLY what the book says doesn't help. At any rate, this poor horse is so dead, it deserves to be left to RIP

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I guess, sometimes even reading EXACTLY what the book says doesn't help. At any rate, this poor horse is so dead, it deserves to be left to RIP

The book says exactly what Rich says that it does. All but one enforcement applies to all fouls. It's right there in the text you quoted.

But by all means, don't just actually admit you might be wrong, continue to bluster on about it for paragraphs.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Welpe

The book says exactly what Rich says that it does. All but one enforcement applies to all fouls. It's right there in the text you quoted.

But by all means, don't just actually admit you might be wrong, continue to bluster on about it for paragraphs.

On a scale of 1 - 1 Billion, where would you rank the significance of your argument, maybe a 3?

The original question related to defensive fouls behind the LOS being enforced either from the spot of the foul (NFHS), or the previous spot (NCAA). If you can force yourself to be honest, there is NOTHING WHATSOEVER about "All-But-One" that relates to Defensive fouls, other than they DON'T APPLY.

This has nothing to do with "admitting anything wrong". If you want to argue the meaning of "ALL" (taken totally out of context) knock yourself out, but you'd be a lot more challenged by a language expert, or someone else who just might care, even a little bit.