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Safety or Penalty
This actually happened last Friday night in a playoff game
B intercepts a pass at their own 6 ~ he circles back into his own end zone ~ A attempts a tackle. B is standing with both feet in the end zone - reaches out so that the ball is completely outside the goal line plain and throws an illegal forward pass. Ruling?? |
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He's in the end zone. If a player throws an illegal pass, with his feet on the 10 yd line, but the ball is in front of him at the 11 yd line, where are you penalizing from, the 10 or the 11?
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For an illegal forward pass, the spot is going to be determined by 2-41-9b., "Where the runner loses possession if his run is followed by a loose ball"; also 10-3-3b, same exact wording. |
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Can you think of any example where an enforcement spot is determined by foot position? For contact fouls presumably some body part is meant -- presumably the part that made contact with an opponent in the way specified -- but not the feet unless the foul is kicking an opponent! |
If he looks like he's in the end zone, I'm ruling him to be in the end zone. If I happen to be calling a game where someone can do a frame-by-frame look and tell the ball was released from outside the end zone, good for them. I'm not seeing a reason, when every spectator is going to see a penalty committed from the end zone, and when I'm probably not in position on the goal line to be certain, or even suspect otherwise, that it shouldn't be ruled from in the end zone.
So, letter of the law, penalize him three inches. Practical application of the law, award a Safety. Kid shouldn't be throwing a forward pass, anyways. He'll learn a valuable life lesson-don't do stupid things in public-and go on to live another day. |
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Regardless, the end of the run is where the passer gave up possession. Maybe that's where the ball left his throwing hand, or maybe you could rule that he lost possession at some earlier time in his arm motion. Depends what you consider "held or controlled". |
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