New NFHS Mechanics?

bballref3966

Was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors pertaining to NFHS mechanics changes. Apparently mechanics were a major point of discussion and editing at the rules committee meeting, though I won't get my manual until September.

Maybe two-handed reporting will be allowed now? 😀

BktBallRef

bballref3966 wrote
Was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors pertaining to NFHS mechanics changes. Apparently mechanics were a major point of discussion and editing at the rules committee meeting, though I won't get my manual until September.

Maybe two-handed reporting will be allowed now? 😃

NFHS signals are a POE.

The only "change" is that the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

No, two handed reporting is not NFHS mechanic.

bballref3966

BktBallRef wrote
NFHS signals are a POE.

The only "change" is that the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

No, two handed reporting is not NFHS mechanic.

You misunderstood. Significant time was spent updating the officials' manual. This could mean that there are some changes that we won't know about until we get the manual in September.

JRutledge

bballref3966 wrote
You misunderstood. Significant time was spent updating the officials' manual. This could mean that there are some changes that we won't know about until we get the manual in September.

Usually they announce those things. I have no idea what would be changed other than maybe some wording that someone will read way too much into.

Peace

BillyMac

BktBallRef wrote
The only "change" is that the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

It's been an official IAABO signal since 2009-10. But, like BktBallRef stated, it's been an unofficial signal, for many officials, not just for IAABO officials, for a lot longer than that. We were using it, here in my little corner of Connecticut, before there was such a thing as official IAABO signals; back when IAABO guys, and gals, were still using NFHS mechanics, and signals (without an official run the endline signal); also known as the good old days. Now we're all legitimate signalers, not NFHS bastard signalers.

OKREF

I've been using it for 14 years.

BillyMac

OKREF wrote
I've been using it for 14 years.

Maybe we can be cellmates in NFHS prison? I bet that I can sharpen the extra whistle in my pocket into a shiv. I wonder what the weather's like in Indianapolis?

You know, it may not be too late to delete your post, and the evidence?

so cal lurker

OKREF wrote
I've been using it for 14 years.

Only 14? -- I remember HS refs using that signal back when I played in the early 80s

OKREF

so cal lurker wrote
Only 14? -- I remember HS refs using that signal back when I played in the early 80s

So do I, however I wasn't officiating those games, hence the statement "I've been using...."

ODog

BktBallRef wrote
... the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

I can't recall seeing anyone doing the "run the endline" signal as drawn up/illustrated.

We all use one, of course, but the one that's been approved is one I rarely see and one I know I won't start seeing.

BillyMac

From the IAABO Mechanics Manual:

BillyMac

ODog wrote
I can't recall seeing anyone doing the "run the endline" signal as drawn up/illustrated.

Where have you seen the new NFHS "run the endline" signal "drawn up/illustrated"?

Isn't Massachusetts an IAABO state, with some NCAA adaptations?

Are you sure that you're not talking about an IAABO, or NCAA (definitely not my forte), signal illustration?

Camron Rust

BillyMac wrote
It's been an official IAABO signal since 2009-10. But, like BktBallRef stated, it's been an unofficial signal, for many officials, not just for IAABO officials, for a lot longer than that. We were using it, here in my little corner of Connecticut, before there was such a thing as official IAABO signals; back when IAABO guys, and gals, were still using NFHS mechanics, and signals (without an official run the endline signal); also known as the good old days. Now we're all legitimate signalers, not NFHS bastard signalers.

I haven't seen the new signal's definition yet but there has been an official NFHS run the endline signal for a long time. It isn't like we haven't had one. Are they just changing the nature of the signal?

See http://www.gccoa.us/basketball/documents/NFHS%20Basketball%20Hand%20Signals.pdf Signal #23.

Or #18 in this version:

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

OKREF wrote
I've been using it for 14 years.

I have been using it for 50 years and I have only been officiating for 44 years.

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac

Camron Rust wrote
... there has been an official NFHS run the endline signal for a long time.

Nice post. Thanks.

Then what's the change?

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.

Camron Rust

BillyMac wrote
Nice post. Thanks.

Then what's the change?

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.

Looks like they're revising the signal to be upwardly oriented AND specifying that it will be used at the time of the stoppage, not just at the time play is to resume.

Rich

Camron Rust wrote
Looks like they're revising the signal to be upwardly oriented AND specifying that it will be used at the time of the stoppage, not just at the time play is to resume.

Sounds exactly like what we've been doing....for as long as I can remember.

Camron Rust

Rich wrote
Sounds exactly like what we've been doing....for as long as I can remember.

Yes. Even though the book has the lower signal, many here (including me) do it upwards and more visible and when the whistle blows to confirm with the crew how we will be resuming.

ODog

Camron Rust wrote
Even though the book has the lower signal, many here (including me) do it upward and more visible ...

This.

ODog

BillyMac wrote
Where have you seen the new NFHS "run the endline" signal "drawn up/illustrated"?

See your own post above the one I'm quoting here.