Warmups

Rich

AremRed wrote
And what, pray tell, is wrong with pregame fist bumps?

Just more for us to watch. Waste of time. They can shake hands and fist bump before the opening toss. They do that anyway.

Regarding 2-person versus 3-person:

I moved here in 2002. Everything was 2-person then, even the post-season. To get 3-person work, I licensed in Illinois and worked about a dozen games there a season.

A majority of my games now are 3-person. Our entire post-season is 3-person, from the opening round until the state finals. I have made a personal decision to never schedule another 2-person game for myself (I have one more this year and maybe 2-3 next season) and I won't hire a 2-person crew for schools personally.

The conference I assign -- I've allowed crews to bring 3 to games all season. I didn't have any extra money for them this year, but as was said, next year all games are assigned 3-person for $60 per official, which is the going rate around here (and what we paid for 2 officials this season).

The thing our state gets wrong is not mandating 3 officials for varsity games.

AremRed wrote
In Wisconsin, those that hire 3 are in a minority now. The conference that Rich assigns will be 3-person next year at $60 per official.

Another thing his state gets wrong.

What, the $60? That's what our conference pays for 2-person now.

Some conferences only pay $50 for 3-person -- they cut the pay when they went to 3 officials. I strongly recommended that not happen for us.

Yes, our officials probably could make a bit more, but we're competitive with neighboring conferences.

zakman2005000

Rich wrote
The conference I assign -- I've allowed crews to bring 3 to games all season. I didn't have any extra money for them this year, but as was said, next year all games are assigned 3-person for $60 per official, which is the going rate around here (and what we paid for 2 officials this season).

Yikes, that's brutal. Up here in the conferences I work, all assign three officials. We were even fortunate to get our fees bumped to $80 or $85/official
for most of those conferences in the process. I guess I'll consider our area to be pretty fortunate.

Rich

zakman2005000 wrote
Yikes, that's brutal. Up here in the conferences I work, all assign three officials. We were even fortunate to get our fees bumped to $80 or $85/official
for most of those conferences in the process. I guess I'll consider our area to be pretty fortunate.

I can probably guess those conferences -- didn't the pay increase come at the expense of mileage reimbursement? Some of the drives in that part of the state are L-O-N-G, too.

zakman2005000

Rich wrote
I can probably guess those conferences -- didn't the pay increase come at the expense of mileage reimbursement? Some of the drives in that part of the state are L-O-N-G, too.

Yeah, no mileage. Probably one or two games per conference where it's over an hour one way trip. Most are 20-45 minutes, that's a trade I'm willing to make. Interesting story about fees I heard thru the grapevine..one conference heard that a rival conference was paying $80/game and the schools said OK we'll pay $85. So much for fiscal responsibility.

Rich

zakman2005000 wrote
Yeah, no mileage. Probably one or two games per conference where it's over an hour one way trip. Most are 20-45 minutes, that's a trade I'm willing to make. Interesting story about fees I heard thru the grapevine..one conference heard that a rival conference was paying $80/game and the schools said OK we'll pay $85. So much for fiscal responsibility.

I'm all for raising rates...I personally think it's due. But he rates haven't moved much in years down here. Adding a third costs each school $60 a game. Better to have 3 at $60 than 2 at a higher rate...for now.

crosscountry55

zakman2005000 wrote
Yikes, that's brutal. Up here in the conferences I work, all assign three officials. We were even fortunate to get our fees bumped to $80 or $85/official
for most of those conferences in the process. I guess I'll consider our area to be pretty fortunate.

Rich wrote
I'm all for raising rates...I personally think it's due. But he rates haven't moved much in years down here. Adding a third costs each school $60 a game. Better to have 3 at $60 than 2 at a higher rate...for now.

Wow. So you're saying I could make $85 doing a Hayward/Bloomer 3-p game in the north woods, or $60 doing a King/Bay View 2-p game in urban Milwaukee.

Where in God's green earth is the logic in that?

Rich

crosscountry55 wrote
Wow. So you're saying I could make $85 doing a Hayward/Bloomer 3-p game in the north woods, or $60 doing a King/Bay View 2-p game in urban Milwaukee.

Where in God's green earth is the logic in that?

All of SE Wisconsin is 3-person.

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