Notre Dame/UConn Thread

bballref3966

Not sure how into women's basketball everyone on this forum is, but I personally am very excited for this battle of undefeateds. Except for Doris Burke's commentary. 🙁

Crew:

Dee Kantner (former NBA official)
Lisa Mattingly
Denise Brooks

JRutledge

Two of these seem to work the Finals every year.

Peace

bballref3966

JRutledge wrote
Two of these seem to work the Finals every year.

Peace

Kantner worked the ND/UConn semifinal last year, and she is the R in what seems like every big game I watch on TV.

Multiple Sports

Bballref -

Had this conversation with a friend who works NCAA-W. I suggested that of the
40 men that worked a sweet 16 or Elite 8, that all 40 were good enough to work the final...

I dont feel that this is the case on the women's side and my friend agreed.....

Your thoughts ????

Would also be curious to what JMF thinks......

bballref3966

Doris Burke after two clearly correct foul calls: "The officials are not off to a good start. Don't put stars on the bench." Basically advocating star treatment.

I'm done...

bballref3966

Multiple Sports wrote
Bballref -

Had this conversation with a friend who works NCAA-W. I suggested that of the
40 men that worked a sweet 16 or Elite 8, that all 40 were good enough to work the final...

I dont feel that this is the case on the women's side and my friend agreed.....

Your thoughts ????

Would also be curious to what JMF thinks......

I will say that in all the finals I can remember in recent years, it has been all-women crews. Coincidence or no? I wouldn't know...

JRutledge

bballref3966 wrote
Kantner worked the ND/UConn semifinal last year, and she is the R in what seems like every big game I watch on TV.

Kantner I bet worked the Finals game about 3 years in a row at one point. Again I do understand, but that seems too much. There is not another official, man or woman that can work that game too?

This is kind of why I never really wanted to ever pursue Women's college officiating. It seems like only a certain few even get a shot. And it is too predictable.

Peace

Multiple Sports

bballref3966 wrote
Doris Burke after two clearly correct foul calls: "The officials are not off to a good start. Don't put stars on the bench." Basically advocating star treatment.

I'm done...

I love my mute button.....although I think that was a WEAK offensive foul call.....

Multiple Sports

bballref3966 wrote
I will say that in all the finals I can remember in recent years, it has been all-women crews. Coincidence or no? I wouldn't know...

But my question is more depth related.....of the 40 officials to work the Sweet 16 and Elite 8, roughly how many were good enough to work the FF 4....

bballref3966

Multiple Sports wrote
But my question is more depth related.....of the 40 officials to work the Sweet 16 and Elite 8, roughly how many were good enough to work the FF 4....

I wish I had an answer, that's a question for one of our NCAA-W guys. It wouldn't be right for me to guess on that...

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bballref3966 wrote
I will say that in all the finals I can remember in recent years, it has been all-women crews. Coincidence or no? I wouldn't know...

I doubt any man will ever ref the women's final from now on.

Multiple Sports wrote
I love my mute button.....although I think that was a WEAK offensive foul call.....

Not a foul.

bballref3966 wrote
I wish I had an answer, that's a question for one of our NCAA-W guys. It wouldn't be right for me to guess on that...

Nice.

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Beautiful travel mechanic at 12:35 second half.

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bballref3966 wrote
I wish I had an answer, that's a question for one of our NCAA-W guys. It wouldn't be right for me to guess on that...

my bad, since you started thread, just thought you were on the women's side of things....

Matt S.

I work NCAA-W (but just D3). However, the male D1's I know certainly understand their 'role' in the women's game.

Wouldn't be shocked to see a slight shift in future years with a man at the helm starting next season...

Rich

Matt S. wrote
I work NCAA-W (but just D3). However, the male D1's I know certainly understand their 'role' in the women's game.

What, to fill space until they can put 3 women on the game regardless of officiating talent?

JRutledge

Rich wrote
What, to fill space until they can put 3 women on the game regardless of officiating talent?

And you wonder why many men stay away? This is partly why.

Peace

twocentsworth

Multiple Sports wrote
I love my mute button.....although I think that was a WEAK offensive foul call.....

To say that offensive foul call (by Lisa Mattingly) was "weak", is an insult to the word "weak".

It was the "worst 1st foul of the game" call in the history of basketball…(hyperbole intended….) It was baaaaaaad.

Fortunately, it didn't affect the outcome.

deecee

What I find funny (ironic, stupid, whatever) is that at the expense of "equality" the selection appears more biased on the women's side AND it even appears overt in every manner. I advocate equality across all levels but the rate at which I see female officials advance, in a majority of cases, has more to do with sex than it does with skill. I wish that wasn't the case. It isn't a good incentive.

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twocentsworth wrote
To say that offensive foul call (by Lisa Mattingly) was "weak", is an insult to the word "weak".

It was the "worst 1st foul of the game" call in the history of basketball…(hyperbole intended….) It was baaaaaaad.

Fortunately, it didn't affect the outcome.

Twocents - On behalf of the word WEAK, would you be willing to accept my deepest apologies!!!!!

BillyMac

deecee wrote
I see female officials advance, in a majority of cases, has more to do with sex than it does with skill.

Every girls state championship final (four school size classes) here in Connecticut has to have at least one female official on the floor (three person finals). 'Enough said.