Kentucky/Wisconsin Block/PCs (2 plays)

JetMetFan

I'm heading out the door so I started a new thread since I can't do all the requested plays at once.

Adam wrote
Block call at about 14:35 or so. Looked like an easy PC on replay.

Adam wrote
Also at 11:53 (first half) followed by a pretty overt display of anger from the defender.

JRutledge

Both PC fouls. These to me are not even close.

Peace

bballref3966

These are textbook PC. Defenders don't do anything wrong, except the defender on the second call could've justifiably been slapped with a T, IMO. Still, he was understandably upset after getting called for that foul.

canuckrefguy

JRutledge wrote
Both PC fouls. These to me are not even close.

Peace

bballref3966 wrote
These are textbook PC. Defenders don't do anything wrong, except the defender on the second call could've justifiably been slapped with a T, IMO. Still, he was understandably upset after getting called for that foul.

+1

One defender doing nothing wrong standing still, the other doing nothing wrong moving backwards and then stopping. Both plays offensive player initiates contact.

The exact B/C plays that John Adams pointed out last year that too many officials were getting wrong.

Raymond

second play was an obvious player control.

first play is a block if they were looking at the contact at the knees, because the defender has his leg outside of normal stance.

Zoochy

I agree with P/C for both plays. My question on Play 2. Is the 'Continuation Motion' different for NCAA-M than Federation? Player finishes his dribble, gets fouled while he pivots and continues his motion to the basket and shoots. and puts the ball in the basket.
Is the 'No Shot', because he drops his hands before he shoots?

Camron Rust

Contact on the first play, as seen in the overhead view, was as much with the defender's extended arm and knee as anything else. Could have gone either way.

Second one, PC.

Raymond

Zoochy wrote
I agree with P/C for both plays. My question on Play 2. Is the 'Continuation Motion' different for NCAA-M than Federation? Player finishes his dribble, gets fouled while he pivots and continues his motion to the basket and shoots. and puts the ball in the basket.
Is the 'No Shot', because he drops his hands before he shoots?

Yes, the rule in NCAA was reinterpreted mid-season to include an upward motion requirement.

ballgame99

PC on both. And I'm not even trying to be funny, but play 2 starts with a blatant travel.

[deleted]

Did Wymer have both of these calls? I did not think he had a very strong game. Would rather have had Mike Roberts the table ref on the game?

Raymond

big jake wrote
Did Wymer have both of these calls?...

Pat Adams took the first one.

Pantherdreams

First one is tough. Really depends on your angle I think and whether you determine that the flexed knee was in/outside of allowed cylinder. Based on replays I'm thinking PC but in real time can see it going either way.

The 2nd one is clearly PC to me. Can't imagine what the defender did wrong.

(Until the slap of the floor but that is seperate from the PC call.)