Flagrant foul on Lebron (Video)

jeremy341a

Good catch by the official IMO. Lebron was fouled hard earlier a couple of times before this play.

JRutledge

Very good catch.

Peace

VaTerp

Good call.

I'd still like to see another angle though to see how much the elbow was outside of his natural motion.

CNYREF

Travel?

just another ref

CNYREF wrote
Travel?

yep.......but it is one that is never called at this level

Adam

just another ref wrote
yep.......but it is one that is never called at this level

Probably because it's not actually a travel at that level.

CNYREF

What's the nba travel difference by rule?

just another ref

Adam wrote
Probably because it's not actually a travel at that level.

He caught it with his right foot on the floor. Then went left, right, left. I thought (in the book) that would be a travel at any level.

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just another ref wrote
He caught it with his right foot on the floor. Then went left, right, left. I thought (in the book) that would be a travel at any level.

Well given that 1) the officials are not as strict as you on when the "gather" has taken place, and 2) the NBA rule allows "two steps", this could easily be not traveling.

Nevadaref

Only saw the SportsCenter highlights of this game. I did not watch it.
There is no doubt in my mind that Lebron purposely led with his elbow as he was upset with the earlier hard fouls that he had received.
That said, the officials need to eject any player, even the league's MVP and star, who resorts to dangerous tactics such as this.

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I want to know what the Lead was thinking. He had a whistle and put his arm up extra strong, but deferred to Monty in the Slot.

Multiple Sports

Guess you realized that if you were going to post videos, the you should post NBA videos, as the quality and clarity are much better than some of those ms videos you were posting last week......

jeremy341a

Multiple Sports wrote
Guess you realized that if you were going to post videos, the you should post NBA videos, as the quality and clarity are much better than some of those ms videos you were posting last week......

That's right bc if it ain't in 1080p there is no way anyone could learn from the conversation. 😉

Altor

If this is a HS game, after Hibbert gets up with help from teammates and then falls back down, do you have him removed and evaluated for a concussion?

Raymond

Altor wrote
If this is a HS game, after Hibbert gets up with help from teammates and then falls back down, do you have him removed and evaluated for a concussion?

I did in a HS game this year.

Raymond

jeremy341a wrote
That's right bc if it ain't in 1080p there is no way anyone could learn from the conversation. 😉

At a minimum 480 with a close up of the action.

deecee

Altor wrote
If this is a HS game, after Hibbert gets up with help from teammates and then falls back down, do you have him removed and evaluated for a concussion?

Evaluated? If you think a player is concussed he's done for the game.

deecee

I personally do not see this as flagrant. Where is he supposed to put his elbows in this move? His pocket.

APG

CNYREF wrote
Travel?

Technically, LeBron traveled after he ended his dribble, but that was only something that I was able to tell on the slowed down baseline camera view. This is a nit that isn't picked at this level.

AremRed wrote
I want to know what the Lead was thinking. He had a whistle and put his arm up extra strong, but deferred to Monty in the Slot.

The lead (Mark Ayotte) probably had a foul on Hibbert for jumping forward and toward LeBron. If it wasn't for LeBron's elbow, I would agree with the call. Great get from Monty McCutchen in the slot.

jeremy341a

BadNewsRef wrote
At a minimum 480 with a close up of the action.

I will try to adhere to the forum guidelines in the future. I did notice that on a lot of videos if the quality it low you can click on the gear on youtube and select a higher quality.