Major Rule Differences between NFHS and NCAA (Men's)

JMUplayer

Doing some post grad this weekend and just want to make sure i'm on top of my major rules differences....

1. Can't call timeout going out of bounds.
2. Shot Clock
3. 3p line different
4. Goaltending rule...

Any other major ones i should be on the lookout for?

APG

Free throws and when people can enter...

Or you can you find a chart in the back of the rule or case book that notes the major differences. 😉

JMUplayer

Books are at home... assignor gave games at 2 a.m. this morning for tonight :o)

Raymond

You should have grabbed your books when you grabbed your bag. 😉

If you have access to either rule set's online publications then you can find the differences there also.

APG

www.nfhs.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=7904

It's a PDF file from the NFHS site with this year's major differences.

JMUplayer

Have to grab my bag on the way to the game.... didn't check email between 2 a.m and 8 a.m.

JMUplayer

Out of Bounds ? ---

In NFHS you can save the ball back in bounds while falling out of bounds and be the first to touch it if you re establish yourself as being inbounds.

In NCAA rules that's different?

JRutledge

JMUplayer wrote
Out of Bounds ? ---

In NFHS you can save the ball back in bounds while falling out of bounds and be the first to touch it if you re establish yourself as being inbounds.

In NCAA rules that's different?

What makes you think the rule is different?

Peace

JMUplayer

In link above:

Player Out of Bounds
Violation called as soon as player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason (NFHS)

Violation called when player returns and is first to touch ball inbounds(NCAA)

tjones1

JMUplayer wrote
Out of Bounds ? ---

In NFHS you can save the ball back in bounds while falling out of bounds and be the first to touch it if you re establish yourself as being inbounds.

In NCAA rules that's different?

NCAA 9-4-1
A player who steps out of bounds under his/her own volition and then becomes the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court has committed a violation.

OKREF

JMUplayer wrote
In link above:

Player Out of Bounds
Violation called as soon as player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason (NFHS)

Violation called when player returns and is first to touch ball inbounds(NCAA)

NFHS, are you calling a violation if the player saves the ball and goes out of bounds while doing this?

JRutledge

The key is under your own volition, not just going out of bounds. If you go out under your own volition in the NF game, you have committed a violation and do not need to touch the ball to have this called.

Peace

bob jenkins

JMUplayer wrote
In link above:

Player Out of Bounds
Violation called as soon as player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason (NFHS)

Violation called when player returns and is first to touch ball inbounds(NCAA)

Doesn't apply to the play you describe ("saving the ball while falling OOB") -- that's not "leaving of your own volition".

The rule difference applies on a play where the baseline cutter runs out of bounds (perhaps to set up the screen) and then looks to receive a pass from the wing.

In HS, that's (supposed to be) an immediate violation (as soon as the player runs OOB). In NCAA, it's a violation only if the player is the first (next) to touch the ball after returning.

OKREF

JRutledge wrote
The key is under your own volition, not just going out of bounds. If you go out under your own volition in the NF game, you have committed a violation and do not need to touch the ball to have this called.

Peace

Correct. If player jumps to save the ball and momentum makes them land out of bounds, and they are the first to touch after establishing on the court. Violation?

bob jenkins

OKREF wrote
Correct. If player jumps to save the ball and momentum makes them land out of bounds, and they are the first to touch after establishing on the court. Violation?

Legal play under FED and NCAA rules.

tjones1

OKREF wrote
Correct. If player jumps to save the ball and momentum makes them land out of bounds, and they are the first to touch after establishing on the court. Violation?

Just touching the ball...no.

JMUplayer

tjones1 wrote
NCAA 9-4-1
A player who steps out of bounds under his/her own volition and then becomes the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court has committed a violation.

so this only applies when a person is not "saving" a ball from going oob?

tjones1

JMUplayer wrote
so this only applies when a person is not "saving" a ball from going oob?

Applies to any player who intentionally goes out of bounds, returns, and is the first to touch the ball.

JMUplayer

So in summary ---

NFHS casebook 7.1.1 -- says legal you can be first to touch
&
NCAA 9-4-1 --says illegal you can't be first to touch?

JRutledge

JMUplayer wrote
So in summary ---

NFHS casebook 7.1.1 -- says legal you can be first to touch
&
NCAA 9-4-1 --says illegal you can't be first to touch?

You do not understand the difference between going out of bounds because you momentum takes you out of bounds and running out of bounds to get some kind of advantage or on purpose?

Saving the ball is not going out on your own volition or to get a clear advantage. Running around a screen is or running around someone to beat someone to the ball is also apart of that rule.

Peace