Slide... Crash

KJUmp

jmkupka wrote
My reasoning is that, while there is no "must slide", there is a slide, avoid, or surrender-whatever is needed to avoid a collision-that didn't happen here. Catcher had the ball, was waiting to apply the tag, and the collision took her out.
I misused the term "crash". I see "crash" as the unfortunate case of ball, fielder, and runner all meeting at the same time, and no INT or OBS is called.
At game speed, this was my rationale, and it's what I explained to the OC.

OC: "But ump, my runner did slide...."

You said in your OP that the runner did slide....so how can you tell the OC that the bolded part did not occur and that's the reason for his runner being called out?

Dakota

jmkupka wrote
...I may be grasping at straws here, but in PONY rules (humor me for a moment) it states, "if there is a slide, it shall be a legal slide"...

In your situation, are you saying the slide was illegal? Why?

You quote the PONY rule. Do they define an illegal slide?

ASA doesn't.

NFHS does. Here it is:

Illegal Slide. A slide is illegal if:
a. the runner uses a rolling or cross-body slide into the fielder;
b. the runner's raised leg is higher than the fielder's knee when the fielder is
in a standing position;
c. the runner goes beyond the base and makes contact with or alters the play
of the fielder;
d. the runner slashes or kicks the fielder with either leg; or
e. the runner tries to injure the fielder

Did your runner do any of those?

jmkupka

Nope...

nothing more than bad technique (on both of our parts)... guess I must have been looking too hard for an out.

KJUmp

jmkupka wrote
Nope...

nothing more than bad technique (on both of our parts)... guess I must have been looking too hard for an out.

+1.
Nice job on your part in learning and improving from what happened on the play.
BTW, given the circumstances and your understanding of the rule and interp at the time, it sounds to me like you handled the OC just fine....which is a big part of our job.
The feedback you received from your post has obviously provided you some additional perspective beyond the applicable rule itself that I'm sure will serve you well down the line.

Big Slick

jmkupka wrote
In an older thread on this forum, a catcher (not in possession) is plowed over by a runner coming home. Verdict: run scores, ejection for USC, nothing in the rules calls for an out. The rationale being, when the catcher has possession, it is assumed she would have made the out had she not been plowed into, so the out is called when there is possession.

You are citing ASA rules on obstruction/crash. NFHS rules do call for an out via Malicious contact (with or without possession)

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