One and one signal

HawkeyeCubP

ballgame99 wrote
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Holy heck, that's a pet peeve of mine. And I feel a thread hijack coming on. One that I'll be fighting not to join in on repeatedly.

fullor30

ballgame99 wrote
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

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HawkeyeCubP

rockyroad wrote
Nope...the less you say the better off you will be.

"1"
"2"
"3"
or
"1 and 1"
Nice and (appropriately) loud. That's it.

Toren

I use to do index fingers out while holding the ball. I did not like the way it looked on video.

I have now switched to bouncing the ball and signaling. I still back out and show 1-1 to the table. I usually say either "bonus 1 and 1" or "1 and 1".

I have found this new method, hard as hell to get use to. Either my cordination I crappy as I get older, or it's always been crappy 😮

I will give it the whole summer to get better at it though, if it's not better by next winter, I will consider switching back.

bob jenkins

tref wrote
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

Well, it's completely different from my 2-shot or 1-shot signal.

ballgame99 wrote
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Nope. The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

Sharpshooternes

I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table. Another minor detail, what are your opinions on 1 and 1 signal in front or with arms straight out to the side with one finger up on each hand. I have seen both.

Adam

tref wrote
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

Has this ever really been an issue?

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bob jenkins wrote
Well, it's completely different from my 2-shot or 1-shot signal.

Nope. The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

Wow, now I've got another thing to work on. 🙁

tref

Snaqwells wrote
Has this ever really been an issue?

Had a situation a few seasons ago where I said 1 & 1, while holding the ball & indicating as others have stated. The defenders were the only ones to move on the miss & the shooting teams players/coach swore I said 2. Unfortunately the single camera shot was from opposite table, so when I backed out, that didnt show up either.

Thats all, just a negative personal experience.

onetime1

Great thread. I usually verbalize "Bonus 1 and 1" But know I should subtract one of these. Should I just say the word "Bonus" or go with "1 and 1"

HawkeyeCubP

Sharpshooternes wrote
I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table. Another minor detail, what are your opinions on 1 and 1 signal in front or with arms straight out to the side with one finger up on each hand. I have seen both.

If you're talking about the outside official (T in 2-person or C in 3-person), technically speaking, I believe, the first is an NCAAW signal, the other is the high school/NCAAM signal. To my knowledge, none of the three actually speak to whether or not to show and/or how to show to the table after the L backs out.

RookieDude

bob jenkins wrote
The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Raymond

Hook 'em Horns while torquing my wrist back and forth and loudly verbalizing 1 and 1. Each index finger high up in the air toward table once I get back to the endline.

Used to do the index fingers up while the ball bounces but some clinician I respected thought I should change it so I did.

Adam

ballgame99 wrote
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Not anymore....

bob jenkins

Sharpshooternes wrote
I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table.

FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Adam

RookieDude wrote
I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Sometimes, I say "let it hit," or "watch your toes" (in lower level games when I see a need), but not as often as I used to. Now that I think of it, I can't remember saying it this season in a game higher than middle school.

Sharpshooternes

bob jenkins wrote
FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Good point Bob. Thanks.

Rob1968

bob jenkins wrote
Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers

+1 Then, I bounce the ball to the shooter, and show the two index fingers, as I back out of the lane.

Camron Rust

ballgame99 wrote
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

The only time I add such extra info is when I work a level that has players that just don't know what is going on....and technically hitting ANYTHING is adequate, not just the rim. So, "Let it hit" is sufficient and more accurate.

onetime1

I usually put the ball between my knees and squeeze hard to keep it there. This allows me to both verbal and visual the one and one signal with no problem. Also gives kind of a suzanne somers workout for my thighs during the game.

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