Captains meeting

deecee

First name, last name. who cares, get off your high horse. As long as they are not disrespectful or out of line what do I care.

Do you not introduce yourself during your captains meeting? "I'm mr. official, and you all better remember that"

Rich

BadNewsRef wrote
If your values are no better or worse why do you get a kick out of it?

You got me. I think it's stuffy and idiotic. I was being polite.

I've never had a kid use my first name and don't expect to. I wouldn't care if they did, though.

I prefer they respect the shirt by acting the right way on the court. This stuff is just window dressing.

JRutledge

deecee wrote
First name, last name. who cares, get off your high horse. As long as they are not disrespectful or out of line what do I care.

Do you not introduce yourself during your captains meeting? "I'm mr. official, and you all better remember that"

I find it funny that people get all up in a bunch of coaches or players say something to them, then they want to tell others how they prefer to be addressed. It is no more of a high horse than folks that claim to get upset if players or coaches say certain things to them that results in a T. Unless we are friends or I know you really well, I do not want you calling me by my first name, which is why most business do not have their people calling their customers by their first name.

Peace

deecee

Most businesses address you as sir, unless there is an introduction as in, "Hi, I am bob" then the employee will call you Bob.

If you don't know someones name you don't have many options of what to call them.

Most of your statement JRUT made no sense whatsoever.

JRutledge

deecee wrote
Most businesses address you as sir, unless there is an introduction as in, "Hi, I am bob" then the employee will call you Bob.

If you don't know someones name you don't have many options of what to call them.

Most of your statement JRUT made no sense whatsoever.

Well anytime I go in to a bank or I call a company that I do business with on the phone they say Mr or Mrs to their customers (cable, electric, gas or phone company). And yes they know my name, because they my information in front of them or I have to verify it to them before we can proceed. They still call me Mr. Rutledge. They never call my Jeff or my full first name. NEVER!!!! I also cannot recall them calling me "sir" after they know who they are speaking to.

Peace

deecee

knowing a name and having an introduction are 2 different things. I just think your horse is getting higher by the post.

constable

RichMSN wrote
I get a kick out of officials who say, "I am Mr. So and So" cause then I step in and say, "I'm Rich."

except I don't call myself Rich.

JRutledge

deecee wrote
knowing a name and having an introduction are 2 different things. I just think your horse is getting higher by the post.

Well then I will be on a high horse then. I was raised in a place where adults were adults and children were children. Sorry if you like your kids talking to you any kind of way and the only way they can show respect is not to curse at you. That was not acceptable in my world. No wonder kids do the things they do today. You want to be their friend rather than being the one responsible for them or the authority figure.

Peace

constable

ga314ref wrote
I'll introduce myself to the coaches.
"Coaches, are your players legally equipped and prepared to play"?
"Coaches, players, you're expected to show good sportsmanship at all times; coaches, we expect for you to be the leaders with this".
"On timeouts, let us know if it's a full of 30, otherwise, we charge you a full, and no discussions about it".
To the players: "Let your teammates know if they don't have the shirttails in, we will not let them into the game".
"Any issues"? (Usually "No").
"Good luck, have a great game".

Around here we are required to use the proper terminology i.e. 60 second time out not full time out.

berserkBBK

constable wrote
Around here we are required to use the proper terminology i.e. 60 second time out not full time out.

I use full time out as a terminology because 30 and 60 sound similar, where as 30 and full are quite distinct from one another. Less confusion.

berserkBBK

berserkBBK wrote
I use full time out as a terminology because 30 and 60 sound similar, where as 30 and full are quite distinct from one another. Less confusion.

This is of course when the coach asks for a TO and I need to get a response on whether he would like "a full" or "a 30"

grunewar

My R was quick tonight.

"Ladies, introduce yourselves."

"Speaking Captains?"

"Good luck and have fun."

15 secs, tops.

BillyMac

JRutledge wrote
I was raised in a place where adults were adults and children were children.

For years, my ex-wife used to hassle me about calling my best friend's parents, "Mr. and Mrs. Smith", rather than, "Bob" and, "Marge". I'm as "old school" as they come when it comes to manners, and being polite, and respectful.

However, for over thirty-one years, I have been introducing myself to captains as, "Billy Mac". In literally thousands of games, I have never had a player address me as either, "Billy", or, "Mr. Mac". Never. Ever.

JRutledge

BillyMac wrote
For years, my ex-wife used to hassle me about calling my best friend's parents, "Mr. and Mrs. Smith", rather than, "Bob" and, "Marge". I'm as "old school" as they come when it comes to manners, and being polite, and respectful.

However, for over thirty-one years, I have been introducing myself to captains as, "Billy Mac". In literally thousands of games, I have never had a player address me as either, "Billy", or, "Mr. Mac". Never. Ever.

It does not really matter to what you say in the introduction, but I want to make it clear I am not their peer. I save the first name to people I meet socially. I am not talking to players and even coaches in this situation socially. And it is not unusual to meet up with coaches socially in many situations in my experience. Even when you know a coach I still introduce myself as if we have never met before a game.

Peace

zm1283

mj wrote
I like to be referred by my first name as I'm not big on titles. I also refer to coaches by their first name but I may be in the minority on doing that in my area. I even look them up prior to the game if I don't know them.

It's what works for me, do what works for you...

Me too. I'm not big on titles and even thought I introduce myself by my first name to players before the game, I don't think I have ever had one call me by the during the game. They forget by the time the game starts anyway.

JRutledge wrote
Well then I will be on a high horse then. I was raised in a place where adults were adults and children were children. Sorry if you like your kids talking to you any kind of way and the only way they can show respect is not to curse at you. That was not acceptable in my world. No wonder kids do the things they do today. You want to be their friend rather than being the one responsible for them or the authority figure.

Peace

This post sounds like some old crank saying "Get off my lawn!".

JRutledge

zm1283 wrote
Me too. I'm not big on titles and even thought I introduce myself by my first name to players before the game, I don't think I have ever had one call me by the during the game. They forget by the time the game starts anyway.

This post sounds like some old crank saying "Get off my lawn!".

It can sound any way you like. But when I played ball and sports and if I even thought to act like these kids do today, my parents would have went out on the court and pulled me off the court themselves. Then my coach would have ran the crap out of us for doing these things. I could not even think to speak to an official let alone question anything they did. As I said before, on wonder kids act the way they do, we have adults that are too worried about being liked by them.

Peace

Adam

JRutledge wrote
As I said before, on wonder kids act the way they do, we have adults that are too worried about being liked by them.

Peace

Not that you care, but this is perhaps the most insightful thing I've ever read from you.

JRutledge

Snaqwells wrote
Not that you care, but this is perhaps the most insightful thing I've ever read from you.

Really don't care. 😉

Peace

Ignats75

Back off on Rut. Not that he needs my help. He said before its a cultural thing. Let it go at that. In the south and in African American circles, Mr. and Mrs. is used as a sign of respect. I grew up in a racially mixed neighborhood. Even when we were very close, I still called my elders Mr. Al or Miss Bessie. It was just a sign of respect.

Personally, I always introduce myself with my first name. I have never been addressed during the game as anything other than "Ref" or "Sir". Well, not counting moron, stripes, idiot, et. al. by fans.

Rich

To me, it's amazing how some people can get so worked up over what, to me, is window dressing (Rich vs. Mr. MyLastName) and yet don't think a 12-year old saying "You suck" to an official (see the other thread) warrants a flagrant technical foul.

I'd rather be called Rich and have genuine respect shown me than be called Mr. Anything and not have genuine respect for me or my position. Keep the window dressing. Call me anything you like as long as you treat me appropriately when something doesn't go your way.

And to me, that's one of the things wrong today -- too few coaches willing to tell a player, "That behavior is unacceptable, you're done for the day" when a kid gets whacked for behavior. Instead, the coach wants to argue the technical foul and tell the kid (out of earshot) that he did nothing wrong. Of course, that's where the kids get this behavior from -- either the coach models this behavior or doesn't step on it when his players exhibit those behaviors.

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