Restricting a Player to the Bench v. Ejecting

njdevs00cup

Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.

Rich

njdevs00cup wrote
Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.

Unless your state has specific instructions that allow restriction of players, it's not an option under NFHS rules.

Ump Rube

I cannot think off the top of my head any situations that are best served by restricting a player/coach over ejecting.

I do so when stated to by the rules, but just about anything that you would do to warrant a reaction, warrants an ejection.

jwwashburn

As Rich said, there might be a provisin in some states for restriction to the bench...

An F bomb yelled at the opposing team in a High School game?

Why in the world would you want that kid near the field for the rest of the game? Ejection is the right call.

SanDiegoSteve

ump rube wrote
i cannot think off the top of my head any situations that are best served by restricting a player/coach over ejecting.

I do so when stated to by the rules, but just about anything that you would do to warrant a reaction, warrants an ejection.

+ 1

mbyron

RichMSN wrote
Unless your state has specific instructions that allow restriction of players, it's not an option under NFHS rules.

I've never heard of a state that allows restricting a player.

UmpJM

mbyron wrote
+1

I've never heard of a state that allows restricting a player.

Well, other than for being an illegal sub or CR.

Rich

UmpJM (nee CoachJM) wrote
Well, other than for being an illegal sub or CR.

JM

You simply can't help being pedantic, can you? 🙄

UmpJM

RichMSN wrote
You simply can't help being pedantic, can you? :rolleyes:

I plead guilty and beg the court's indulgence. 😮

Rich

UmpJM (nee CoachJM) wrote
I plead guilty and beg the court's indulgence. 😮

JM

Eh, I'm just cranky looking at the snow/sleet/hail on the ground.

BretMan

jwwashburn wrote
Why in the world would you want that kid near the field for the rest of the game? Ejection is the right call.

We're specifically told that for high school ball that an ejected player has to stay in the dugout. You can't send him off "out of sight" like you can a coach because we're dealing with students that can't be left on their own unsupervised.

I might not personally want him near the field, but I don't really have much choice in the matter.

DG

njdevs00cup wrote
Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.

Here in my state, there are ejections (7 things) and restrictions (everything else). Ejections come with stiff penalties for players and coaches and form to fill out and submit for umpires. Restrictions to dugout are that game only and no forms to fill out for umpires. This player's actions would result in ejection, profanity one of the 7.

jwwashburn

BretMan wrote
We're specifically told that for high school ball that an ejected player has to stay in the dugout. You can't send him off "out of sight" like you can a coach because we're dealing with students that can't be left on their own unsupervised.

I might not personally want him near the field, but I don't really have much choice in the matter.

I have not done HS ball in several years. I guess I was remembering coaches. I mostly tossed them. A few kids that I ejected throughout the years were removed by the Athletic Director/Principal, etc...I had a few kids involved fights sent to sit on the bus by their coach.

DG

jwwashburn wrote
I had a few kids involved fights sent to sit on the bus by their coach.

A coach would have to sit on bus with him here. Or, parent take home. Assume away game since there is a bus, but some home games are played at sites both teams arrive by bus. A school administrator could also sit on bus with the ejected player. They are not to be left unattended.

jwwashburn

Bus driver was there...they always sat there for the whole DH...

Forest Ump

Our policy is they stay in the dugout when ejected unless a parent or guardian can take them away. This came about from an incident where an ejected kid vandalized an umpire’s car. He saw the shirts hanging in the back.

ODJ

jwwashburn wrote
Bus driver was there...they always sat there for the whole DH...

The bus driver is not authorized school personnel. He/she is an independent contractor, just like you.

GoodwillRef

njdevs00cup wrote
Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.

Dump him...there is the bus or the school...have a nice walk...DOPE!

jwwashburn

ODJ wrote
The bus driver is not authorized school personnel. He/she is an independent contractor, just like you.

In some states he is, in some states he is a School empoloyee. If the people who are responsible for little Jimmy are getting little out of my sight, why would I care where little Jimmy went?

MD Longhorn

I think that if I were given the choice (and often, by rule, I am not!), I would want to restrict for administrative matters that "warrant" ejection, and eject for anything malicious, aggressive, reactive, etc (including the OP).

By current rule, the OP is an easy EJ (bus, not dugout).